The GT300/Fermi Thread - Part 2!

[saaya]

And you have this info from whom... Charlie?

no, charlie has nothing to do with this... you know, not everybody who questions a rumor that would be good news for nvidia has some connection to charlie... some people are really paranoid when it comes to charlie

it doesnt really make sense for nvidia to have that many parts at launch... they couldnt sell any cards for over half a year now, they just couldnt... and now all the sudden they have a big batch of cards for the launch? when even jensen said gf100 cards will only REALLY be available in the second half of this year? so there, nothing to do with charlie, simply based on what mr nvidia himself said a launch with 60k cards is unlikely...

Well isn't that the basis for debate?

what do you mean? a healthy balance of thesis and antithesis is usually the best imo... bull and bear...

Or maybe more bandwidth won't help because the bottleneck is elsewhere. It could be any number of reasons and we will know soon enough. I'm amazed that nothing solid has leaked yet. Two weeks to go.

yes, just like with rv870 that doesnt scale all that well with more bw either...

[Zer0th]

Charlie admits error

[zalbard]

Charlie admits error

275W GTX480, wow...

[xdan]

625/1250/900...
those are really low gddr5 clocks...
5870 comes at 1200, thats 33% higher...
i wonder if nvidia clocked the mem that low to diferentiate the 470 and 480, or if they really cant clock higher...

Both GTX 470/ 480 ES tested are downclocked versions, and they using an old version of drivers-for GTX 470/480.
The clocks will be a little higher( not 750 dream).... probably 675/1350/1100( GTX 470) and 650/1300/1000 GTX 480.
To much hAT(e)I on this thread....Ati fanboys forget their 2900XT dark age, and they forget their nightmare 8800GTX...
Both GTX 470/480 will be good cards...
Hopefuly GTX 460 will come in may and smash GTX 5770/5830/5850 at price/performance.

[Chickenfeed]

Both GTX 470/ 480 ES tested are downclocked versions, and they using an old version of drivers-for GTX 470/480.
The clocks will be a little higher( not 750 dream).... probably 675/1350/1100( GTX 470) and 650/1300/1000 GTX 480.
To much hAT(e)I on this thread....Ati fanboys forget their 2900XT dark age, and they forget their nightmare 8800GTX...
Both GTX 470/480 will be good cards...
Hopefuly GTX 460 will come in may and smash GTX 5770/5830/5850 at price/performance.

I'll believe the ES/non final BIOS part.

Why would you figure the 480 would have a lower memory clock... If anything the memory clock will be at least the same, most likely more. The extra bit width helps but not that much.

As far as hate, I wouldn't go that far. We've just yet to see / hear anything that contridicts the direction things seem to be going. Anyways how are past gpu generations success or lack there of relavent? Yes the 2900XT sucked and yes the 8800GTX took the trash to the curb but what does that have to do with today? I don't care if Nvidia released an awesome product line in the past ( I owned a 8800gtx for a year and a half from launch week ) if they don't continue to do so.

In closing it would be nice if all of our pessimism could be greeted with a pleasent surprise is all.

[Behemot]

2900XT

Initially yes, but than it was pretty much as GTS 640 MB, later sometimes between GTS 640 MB and GTX. But the power consumption was bad, it's true...

[Sn0wm@n]

Charlie admits error

loved the link saying oak ridge national lab doesnt want a fermi cluster....