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    Quote Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
    It is far more complicated than you think. Our TDP is max power, which is the most power that the processor can consume. For Intel, this is "max power", not TDP.

    Real power at the wall is what will matter. For example:

    Xeon X5570:
    TDP: 95W
    Max power: 155W (sustained)
    Highest power 197 (I would generally ignore this number, but it is an interesting data point)
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/I...602X5570).html
    Power at the wall @100% utilization: ~254W

    Opteron 2435:
    ACP: 75W
    TDP: 115W (this is max power)
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AM...S6DGNWOF).html
    Power at the wall: ~258W

    Power at the wall for both (I just grabbed the first result, thus the ~):
    http://www.spec.org/power_ssj2008/re...r_ssj2008.html

    So, what you really see, is at the wall, you have to plan for about the same amount of power for both. So you can't compare TDP only (95W to 115W).

    Nor, can you compare our ACP to their TDP because again there is a 20W delta.

    What you really need to look at is the power at the wall, and you can see that they are both about the same.

    That is a pure power discussion. You could layer in performance to try to argue it one way or the other, but you have to be really careful in doing that as both products are going to rev in 2 weeks. Unless you know where both are going to end up you might not want to put your stake in the ground just yet. (also don't forget that this is a $989 part vs. a $1386 part)
    Can you please keep talking about your own product and avoid distributing false information about your competitor's product ... you are mixing Max electrical and max thermal numbers to confuse people, this is not a gentleman like attitude. I don't think you have a grip on Intel methodologies:
    I propose that you talk about what you understand and know, and ONLY this.

    Your little FUD on the power stuff should be kept on your own processors, you obviously don't understand the difference between electrical max power and Thermal max power, and I know why, your processors don't have a PCU, (power control unit), and you are trying to confuse people on it. Reality is that Nehalem and Westmere are able to make the difference between Electrical and thermal power, and we exploit this to provide maximum performance for a given TDP. Again, stay away from what you don t understand.

    So, please, keep marketing your platform, but only speak about what you know and don't spit in the soup of your neighboor (with false claims and banana to apple comparaisons) ... thanks!

    Francois
    Last edited by Drwho?; 03-11-2010 at 09:04 AM. Reason: spelling of franglais
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