Quote Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post
Just curious if you did not buy the 7000 series nvidia cards because of hte high failure rate, the 8000 series cards because despite a 5 year beta perioid they could not produce a vista driver that worked... or for that matter a 6000 series card because of over heating issues?

Funny when I hear people say "nVidia makes a quality driver or product" they have the same fail rate or worse ATI does.

The big problem with ATI drivers? Finding one that fits an old ass part. Always has been and thats the chief complaint.

Has ATI had HW/SW problems? Of course.. to say otherwise would be ridiculous and make you sound like a moron (oops sorry for quoting you).

I like ATi because the have supported features that I tend to use first... IE .. multi mon, multi 3d mon etc.


Now does that mean I wont run nVidia? Absolutely not. I will abuse that HW just like I do ATi. Will I use it for my main dispaly? No.. but I admit thats a preferential thing. Not a fan boy thing. I like ATIs IQ better than nVidias.. many prefer it the other way around.

I have actually gone to the point of explaining it.. nVidia is "realistic" and ati is "cartoony" for lack of the correct way of explaining it. nVidia has a high gamma rate as default so everything to me like white washed. At the same time ATI does cartoony stuff like delineated lines on objects (no blur) and vibrant colors.. unlike relife.

CSAA works for nViida because LCDs dont have the color range real monitors do... so its like free AA I was running 24" CRTs up until last year.. so maybe I should try nVidia again. problem is their cards are STILL so over priced for the power you get..

295 costs $500? 285s are selling used for 3-400 WTF? Well admittedly those are forum prices not ebay.. I bought a 280 for under 200 last year.. and have seen 295s sell under 300.

I have seen nvidia fanboys trash forums with their grabage... and remember when they were paid to do it.

so yeah I guess I am a bit of an ATI fan boy... not cuz im getting paid.. not bwecause I have an allegiance ot the company. It just worked better for me since forever. Since I returned my FX5200 to go back to my radeon 7000, since I dumped my 7900GT for a x1950.. to my roll thorugh 3 8800 series cards all giving me BSODs... t ojust pick up a 3850 instead... to my 4850-4890 run...

I will go 5800 before I go "fermi." If youwant to call me a fanboy, I do not care. I know this for 2 reasons.

Firstly ... 5800 will be cheaper.. Secondly.. I can make my lights flicker with a 4890... whats a fermi gonna do?
I didn't get a 7000 series as my interest in computers decreased that year because of some familiar problems. I went from a 6800GT to 8800GTS 320 but i do know the major flop 7000 series cards were (no problems at all with the 6800 though). I had a 9700 PRO, 9800 PRO and x800 PRO prior to that 6800, the x800 fried but well, s**t happens.

I work closely with a computer shop, most returned parts or issues with video cards are ATI. Either problems with drivers (people go back to the store for that), games that will crash instantly on startup or that recent GSOD issue. It's been like that since ever, no wonder there's this feeling that nVidia is more reliable. The RMA ratio is way lower and people still want to buy 295's and 285's, they were stupid to stop making them.

To be honest, i don't see a difference between nVidia's or ATI's IQ so that's not a decision point for me. I like the way my 4870x2 displays my game graphics, i just don't like when i run a game and it lacks effects because the video card doesn't support it. Like i said before, rather have them all than don't.

I didn't care much about the Cypress thing after the day i got one here at home for a review. The drivers wouldn't install, took me a long time to make that card "just work" and all in all my 295 would completely bash it in every game. I know those were early drivers i know the gap is smaller now, but still launching cards priced like this with incredibly bad support like that... Meh. I just thought "Yeah, good old ATI" and moved on.

If my way of thinking labels me as a Fanboy, so be it, but me, like everyone else, just look for the product that best suits me. I don't care about the price/performance ratio (always thought this was ridiculous) or i'd end up with something like a 5770 to play 1920x1200 (lol) and neither do i care about heat or consumption. I watercool my video cards and got an 850W PSU. What i do want is the possibility to tweak my games the way i want them to look like, spend a full 20 mins doing that and then go play.

Weird way of thinking? Well, it's mine, it's who i am either accept it or ignore it

Quote Originally Posted by eric66 View Post
lol what x1900 was killer card best single card with much better iq if you can enjoy games with poor iq don't know that more like nvidia fanatism to me
I know the x1900 was nice, 8800 was just "nicer". That's why i skipped x1900. It took one hell of a beating from G80 in every aspect. As for IQ, that used to be true years ago when there was a real noticeable difference, specially in video output to the TV, nowadays it's just the same.