OCZ shows its full Sandforce based SSD lineup

[felix_w]

RAID 0 with SSDs is a romantic thought, but disables trim. Drive slows down then you have to wipe them separately then re-image. OK for a bench rig, sux for a 24/7. I am gonna go with two 100+GB drives and leave them separate. Blazing fast encoding and trim FTW!!

GC works fine so far in current OCZ drives....only xtra-heavy usage may set your array's performance back...but you can always use Tony-Trim once in a week and be fine....

[MadHacker]

RAID 0 with SSDs is a romantic thought, but disables trim. Drive slows down then you have to wipe them separately then re-image. OK for a bench rig, sux for a 24/7. I am gonna go with two 100+GB drives and leave them separate. Blazing fast encoding and trim FTW!!

I can understand that, however how often does one need to run trim?
If i get my boot drive all configured and never write to it, i.e user profile directory on a different drive, temp directory in ram drive, swap file disabled.
How often would the boot drive change, how often would one need to run trim?

[zalbard]

How often would the boot drive change, how often would one need to run trim?

Intel recommends doing it daily.

[Metroid]

Just to clarify,

Corsair SSD Force series will be released in 2 weeks, 100GB and 200GB

http://www.corsair.com/products/ssd_force/default.aspx

285 MB/s sequential read
275 MB/s sequential write

Price for the 100GB model £333.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/100GB...-Write-275MB-s

Price for the 200GB model £578.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/200GB...-Write-275MB-s

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22775

The OCZ Vertex 2 will indeed use SF-1200 and will come next month, 50GB, 100GB and 200GB.

Nice

[zalbard]

Hope the price in US will be much lower than that...

[Metroid]

We pay 18% tax here also I think Corsair is charging more than is due.

OCZ Vertex Limited Edition is selling for £310 in the UK. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-035-OC

OCZ gives 3 years of warranty for SSD's. On the other side, Corsair will give only 2 years of warranty,.

Let's see how the Corsair Force 100GB will compare to the Vertex 2 Price / Performance.

[Dainas]

indeed, specially since as others posted here.. 50GB is pretty much worthless. After just installing Win 7 x64 on my SSD (Which was the bare minimum size I was willing to work with) about 20gigs were gone!!!!

However I still have a constant +200mb/s to this day so trim is working. We need higher capacities though, the $/GB is still astronomical and has hardly gone down a cent in a year. Sandforce does have my faith, if they can make MLC the end all people are happy with perhaps then prices will settle, as it feels to me the sky high price of SLC is skewing the market perception of what is acceptible.

[n!Cola]

Or just wait for Agility2 for better per/£

[lowfat]

indeed, specially since as others posted here.. 50GB is pretty much worthless. After just installing Win 7 x64 on my SSD (Which was the bare minimum size I was willing to work with) about 20gigs were gone!!!!

However I still have a constant +200mb/s to this day so trim is working. We need higher capacities though, the $/GB is still astronomical and has hardly gone down a cent in a year. Sandforce does have my faith, if they can make MLC the end all people are happy with perhaps then prices will settle, as it feels to me the sky high price of SLC is skewing the market perception of what is acceptible.

Disable hibernation and move pagefile off the drive. Windows 7 takes like 8GB.

[n!Cola]

Disable hibernation and move pagefile off the drive. Windows 7 takes like 8GB.

At start, yes

[Vapor]

Don't these drives compress the data on it (to reduce writes), so the same data should take up less space compared to other drives?

[LesGrossman]

RAID 0 with SSDs is a romantic thought, but disables trim. Drive slows down then you have to wipe them separately then re-image. OK for a bench rig, sux for a 24/7. I am gonna go with two 100+GB drives and leave them separate. Blazing fast encoding and trim FTW!!

My OCZ raid 0 Atto scores are higher now after 6 month then in the day i installed windows 7, so GC is working.

[alfaunits]

The compression cannot estimate how much space will be used by the data, once it is compressed, hence the size shown to the user never changes.
However, the controller can use it to do less writes than it would usually need to. Essentially it does reduce space taken by actual data, but only for internal purposes.

Don't these drives compress the data on it (to reduce writes), so the same data should take up less space compared to other drives?

[zalbard]

Don't these drives compress the data on it (to reduce writes), so the same data should take up less space compared to other drives?

That's the first time I hear about it. Really really doubt that.

[Generic user #2]

basically, it uses compression to reduce its write amplification. it is NOT used to give you more storage space.

it sounds simple enough to do; its how effective it is that is in doubt.

[Dainas]

Disable hibernation and move pagefile off the drive. Windows 7 takes like 8GB.

I did both of those, and still 17gb. Doesnt matter though, drives under 80gb are a waste of money.

[Metroid]

I have a feeling OCZ will not put these Sandforce drives to sale until the Vertex LE stock is depleted. How sad!

[Computurd]

the write compression is true, a new version of write amplification control, i dunno but hardware level compression sounds flaky at best to me. Also what about files that are already highly compressed? they will still write the same. also the compression aids in the speed of writes, so when you are dealing with already compressed files your writes are gonna go to crap. i just dont buy it. its a nice new idea but i would want to see a couple of hundred hours put on one of these drives and the performance tested then before i would drop a penny on it.

[Teemax]

That's the first time I hear about it. Really really doubt that.

Only the SandForce controller does that (search for the AnandTech article on it if you want more info).

However, the SandForce controller's compression goal is to enhance write performance and reduce wear, it's not really meant to increase the drive's capacity if I understand it correctly.