The GT300/Fermi Thread - Part 2!

[malik22]

anyone know if its being released early or late march?

[***Deimos***]

anyone know if its being released early or late march?

sure

whatever lets you sleep at night.

I think Intel is a good example of what happen when you don't do what nvidia is doing by jumping to the 4xx instead of the 3xx with fermi. Intel has probably the most confusing naming system in history. The core i7, i5,i3 and pentium processors need an extreme overhaul. There are too many processors that are named in the i7 range that shouldn't be there. Similarly the i7 980x is a hella confusing name, it should have been the i9 975 or something to show it has six cores.

I missed the days when processors frequency denoted speed.

I see way too many pc builds now a days that throw in a computer with a 1366 processor in a 1156 socket build on forums or add a triple channel memory kit with a dual channel memory system. These are real suggestion too, not imaginary anecdotal situations where people upgrade from 8800gt to 9800gt to 240gts, that could happen but don't.

Um no.
Intel's previous E6600 etc.. naming scheme was VERY clear.

Intel's current naming scheme was changed to make clear what is Nehalem/Lynnfield/Clarkdale.
All i7 are quad core +HT. the 9xx are X58 and the i7-8xx are P55 (1156).
All i5 and i3's are 1156. The 7xx is Lynnfield without HT. The 6xx and 5xx are Clarkdale.

Its a very simple naming system.

AMD liked it so much, they called their Phenom II X4 "965" just like the Nehalem 965.

Contrast with nVidia. What is the difference between a 8800GTS and a 8800GTS? Is a GTS250 better than a 9800GTX+?

[saaya]

sure
whatever lets you sleep at night.

hahah this made me lol

Um no.
Intel's previous E6600 etc.. naming scheme was VERY clear.

Intel's current naming scheme was changed to make clear what is Nehalem/Lynnfield/Clarkdale.
All i7 are quad core +HT. the 9xx are X58 and the i7-8xx are P55 (1156).
All i5 and i3's are 1156. The 7xx is Lynnfield without HT. The 6xx and 5xx are Clarkdale.

Its a very simple naming system.

AMD liked it so much, they called their Phenom II X4 "965" just like the Nehalem 965.

Contrast with nVidia. What is the difference between a 8800GTS and a 8800GTS? Is a GTS250 better than a 9800GTX+?

i agree that intels previous naming sheme was pretty good... not perfect but good...

about the current naming sheme... nah, its really confusing...
there are i5s that beat i7s, there are even i3s that beat i7s and i5s!!!
intel made the mistake of creating hw categories that dont mean anything to end users... end users want to know what product to chose for what task/system... ie gaming = X, workstation = Y, office = Z

with i9 i7 i5 i3 that doesnt work very well at all...

and about amd liking intels sheme so much they copied it...
nah, i dont think they care, they neither like or dislike it, they copied it just because its intel and people will be familiar with their sheme, more or less... ie people know 965 is a fast cpu, so if they see an amd 965 they know its a fast cpu as well...

very bad idea in my opinion tbh cause it makes amd look like a cheap asian copycat company instead of a propper western engineering powerhouse that... well it WANTS to be... and lets say it is, but im being really generous here :P

guys dont get your skirts up.. 64 texture units/half shader clock makes fermi mind boggling efficient and still beats 5870 (44gigatexel vs 68 gigatexel)

whitepaper doesnt state half/full or anything the shader clock.. only states "higher clock"

whitepaper @ v1.4 it wont remain @ v1.4 lol

only 64 texture units @ half shader clock cannot coexist.. one or the other will get whitepaper update.. but then again it still beats 5870s texturing power

you have proven in your previous posts that you have no insider infos about fermi whatsoever, so how can you rave for an unreleased product? why are you trying to convince us how great it is when you have no possible way of knowing anything about it yourself?

or do you think you aresorounded by ati fans and think it would be fun to poke at them and call them out?

[Biker]

This thread is rapidly turning into a troll banquet (yet again)

Yes Fermi will hopefully be released soon.

Yes it will be pretty fast.

Yes it will be ing expensive.

End of discussion

Until we get some (more) hard numbers what is the point of creating another 100 page long pissing contest?

[WeeMaan]

About AMD copying Intels naming scheme I think it's because they want people to think that their 965 is equal to Intels 965.
Just like they did with the 3000+ etc trying to convince people their 3000+ equals a Pentium 4 3000mhz.

[kgtiger]

This thread is rapidly turning into a troll banquet (yet again)

Could have something to do with the Tag "Troll Party" at the bottom.

I can honestly say that, "All I know, is nothing at all"
I feel I may have even lost some ground on that after reading some 40 odd pages in the last Fermi thread and the all of this new one.

Lets hope the entertainment improves, hay.