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    I run my 9.5 on HD 3870 just fine (after looong hours of installing), don't want something new, thank you very much. Everything after 9.5 probably cripples SurroundView etc. But, is finally solved the "registry blabla" error when installing under XP x86-64? Ah, doesn't matter as long as it could be somehow installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokinhow View Post
    Known Issues Under All Windows Operating Systems
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    Intermittent grey screen or vertical line corruption may randomly appear on the
    screen


    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    not fixed yet

    at least they said "WE KNOW THIS EXIST...", but the "may randomly appear" says to me "..BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHY THIS HAPPENS"
    Well, it's not limited to grey screens... On a forum we've found nearly all colours of the rainbow... I myself had blue. So I'll stick with 9.11 kthxbai.
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    Finlay they fixed gl video flicker, so guess they're not so bad, quite a stability improvement... at least so far, after 10 minutes of testing. I knew about this problem so i checked specifically and it's fixed, but now I wonder what worked before and won't anymore. Guess it's a kinder surprise, you never know what you gonna get.

    For me, stability is more important, compared to a useless performance boost like 300+ FPS in older games...
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    One question - is compatibility for HD5970 impproved for some games under Win 7 x64?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSAlliN View Post
    Finlay they fixed gl video flicker, so guess they're not so bad, quite a stability improvement... at least so far, after 10 minutes of testing. I knew about this problem so i checked specifically and it's fixed, but now I wonder what worked before and won't anymore. Guess it's a kinder surprise, you never know what you gonna get.

    For me, stability is more important, compared to a useless performance boost like 300+ FPS in older games...
    I spoke to soon... They fixed the flicker but now the screen goes black when changing from full-screen -> Window at custom aspect ratio... Guess I'll have to leave it on full-screen during playback, which I can't do since I have no external application to bother me during that time (maybe just the AV if downloading something)... rather that then flicker (always a compromise - got used to that, same as all ATi users). At least they guys from ATi have some fear in their bones and don't venture to unknown terrain like nVidia... That's usually a bad thing, since the ones that gamble have a change of better results (even surprise ones) but sometimes things can go horribly run and I wouldn't want that with drivers...

    What can I say, I'm one of those peoples that don't consider flight delays a bad thing. Ok, the plane has some technical problems, bad weather or something like that... Considering the situation I don't mind waiting, compared to other that feel like a plane should respect the program same as a bus, even sue the company... which might rush things in the future resulting in some plane crash. So besides the company in situations where the fault is technical related, I also blame the people that rush things that shouldn't be rushed...

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    Mostly just a bug fix driver. Not worth upgrading to for me...although most driver releases aren't anymore since I've got a 4x00 series card. Probably no more performance boosts until I get a 5x00 series card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorlac View Post
    Release notes PROVE they are aware of the gray screen/vertical line crash and it is NOT fixed. Nice...

    Glad I bought a eVGA GTX 285 that I will step-up to a Fermi. XFX wont fix my 5870 because they say its a driver issue. I cant do anything on my computer with the 5870 because of the Gray Screen Of Death (GSOD).

    Anyone want to buy my 5870? (might have to stick it on ebay). /sigh
    Ummm... you do realize they have to submit the drivers in the beginning of the month to make sure they are certified at the end, right?

    You don't think GF100 is going to have driver problems, a new architecture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE View Post
    I uninstalled the drivers and installed 10.1 drivers from AMD.


    They show as 9.0
    they might as well show 101.1 or "CO2" it makes no difference! What counts is 8.69! That's true software revision number! 9.12, 10.1 etc... is only marketing name!

    I find it funny that people are biatching about this totally irrelevant number!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razrback16 View Post
    Mostly just a bug fix driver. Not worth upgrading to for me...although most driver releases aren't anymore since I've got a 4x00 series card. Probably no more performance boosts until I get a 5x00 series card.
    have u tested for it to be compared?
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    What's evenThat's Catalyst version as in CP (Control Panel). Unless they bring new functions to it, they can keep using it... Beyond this, after installing this version, actually latter when I tried a game I got my 1'st BSOD - in Windows 7 after 7 months of stability... Maybe it didn't like the upgrade install, so I removed all ATi related and did a clean one installing only the driver, tried some benching and stress tests (CPU,RAM, GPU) and even tried the game witch in which i got that BSOD and so far it's stable... Don't know if I should contradict myself and say it could be CP related since when i have a problem, i usually install just the driver by Device Manager, without CP... Since i have no use for it, I'll leave it off for know... might try it again with v 10.2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedjo View Post
    they might as well show 101.1 or "CO2" it makes no difference! What counts is 8.69! That's true software revision number! 9.12, 10.1 etc... is only marketing name!

    I find it funny that people are biatching about this totally irrelevant number!
    It's logical that people complain, because it's confusing.
    Why can't ATI just stop with this parallel numbering?
    They should just use one of those, whichever.... I don't care. But just one.

    BTW, AMD should hire more people for the ATI driver team.

    As for this numbering "detail", well, just patch the damn driver and release 10.1b NOW, don't wait 1 month for that. Can't be that hard....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedjo View Post
    they might as well show 101.1 or "CO2" it makes no difference! What counts is 8.69! That's true software revision number! 9.12, 10.1 etc... is only marketing name!

    I find it funny that people are biatching about this totally irrelevant number!
    DO you work for AMD/ATI? just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotrsama View Post
    a driver killing hardware? thats a first, i wouldnt really take that seriously besides a couple of isolated incidents. And im sure it didnt take months to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotrsama View Post
    It's logical that people complain, because it's confusing.
    Why can't ATI just stop with this parallel numbering?
    They should just use one of those, whichever.... I don't care. But just one.

    BTW, AMD should hire more people for the ATI driver team.

    As for this numbering "detail", well, just patch the damn driver and release 10.1b NOW, don't wait 1 month for that. Can't be that hard....
    Yeah, sure, more quantity instead of quality... They don't need more people, maybe 1 or 2 that are very skilled at this but that's really hard to find since VGA's are really complex compared to other hardware and ATi (AMD), nVidia are top companies for that. In worst case, they might end up with some that worked at Creative, that should thing interesting in a more problematic way...

    It's easy to talk, I do it myself from time to time... But when it comes to the real work behind this and so many things that could go wrong, since they're so many things that are VGA dependent (especially today)... And let's not forget, they have no TWIMTBP and beyond that, they could try to cheat like nVidia but that doesn't help much cause the real results are important (really important), since most of us are not benching fanatics.

    Some nVidia users might contradict me, as in NO - they're not as good as nVidia when it comes to cheating... well, they are mistaken, they already proved they could do that with Furmark - forcing the cards to render at predefined FPS rates, which is more complicated then showing some fake FPS results in some applications.

    But beyond this mambo jumbo benching which I don't really care, i aim for stability and improvement. If I use a Futuremark product I use it to test the stability of my card and a game for fun, not FPS scores...

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    Remember, it's what's inside the driver that counts.

    From my perspective, this driver fixes a few things that need to be fixed but doesn't address some issues that are a problem for some users. The grey screen issue as well as the 2D screen tearing problem hasn't been resolved which is sure to be brought up again and again particularly with a driver that is billed as a "bug fixer".

    As for those of you hoping for substantially increased performance when going from one driver to the next on single GPU solutions, forget it. From my experience it doesn't happen unless there are performance issues to begin with. With cards like the HD 5970 and Crossfire setups, there will naturally be advances due to the tweaking of dual card profiles but other than that, I haven't seen any change in performance from the beta drivers that were released with the HD 5870 and HD 5850.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotrsama View Post
    you mean those drivers from october 2009? its now jan 2010 and new ones have come out. LOL i love when people really really reach to try and post something to downplay another company. Because im sure EVERY ati release was perfect right? Jesus people....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    As for those of you hoping for substantially increased performance when going from one driver to the next on single GPU solutions, forget it. From my experience it doesn't happen unless there are performance issues to begin with. With cards like the HD 5970 and Crossfire setups, there will naturally be advances due to the tweaking of dual card profiles but other than that, I haven't seen any change in performance from the beta drivers that were released with the HD 5870 and HD 5850.
    There are also naturally optimisations for new games, but since there are none that've come out recently...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelixPC View Post
    a driver killing hardware? thats a first, i wouldnt really take that seriously besides a couple of isolated incidents. And im sure it didnt take months to fix it.
    If you have time, read the [H] thread, it's quite amusing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Circaflex View Post
    you mean those drivers from october 2009? its now jan 2010 and new ones have come out. LOL i love when people really really reach to try and post something to downplay another company. Because im sure EVERY ati release was perfect right? Jesus people....
    Yes, the one that everybody used when Windows 7 was released.
    If your card got fried because the driver decided to up the voltages, you wouldn't be happy. Doesn't matter if it's today or 4 months ago.

    And no, both companies suck with their drivers. Maybe you missed my other post in this very thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by XSAlliN View Post
    Yeah, sure, more quantity instead of quality... They don't need more people, maybe 1 or 2 that are very skilled at this but that's really hard to find since VGA's are really complex compared to other hardware and ATi (AMD), nVidia are top companies for that.
    You have a point there, but releasing a driver with the wrong numbering? Doesn't take a genius to check stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    There are also naturally optimisations for new games, but since there are none that've come out recently...
    True.

    However, what ATI needs is a company like EVGA (maybe XFX can do this?) which delivers dual card "enhancement" patches and then filters their info down to the main driver development team. That decreases the work for the driver dev team while allowing more resources to be dedicated to other issues.

    From my conversations with Terry, it is more than evident that his team is a well-oiled machine. I just find it unrealistic to expect a new driver every month from ATI. I would rather see drivers released every 2 months or every quarter which would give them time to polish things a bit more before release. Let's face it, being under the gun of a monthly driver release schedule can't be easy, especially when it comes to submitting them for WHQL status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelixPC View Post
    DO you work for AMD/ATI? just curious.
    Yep, he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotrsama View Post
    You have a point there, but releasing a driver with the wrong numbering? Doesn't take a genius to check stuff like that.
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    Well GTA4 benchmark crashes ,but gameplay is a little smoother than 9.12.



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    Hot fix released. It fixes a problem with forcing AA on Mass Effect 2 when using Crossfire

    http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...Crossfire.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontos View Post
    Hot fix released. It fixes a problem with forcing AA on Mass Effect 2 when using Crossfire

    http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...Crossfire.aspx
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    Another hotfix a few hours after the original release, lol.
    Glad they are quickly working on resolving the issues, though!
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    Fix GTAIV Benchmark !



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