I dont have many posts here, which makes it seem to long term members that I dont know this stuff. If you look in to me at EOCF and NBOC, and you will see I know what Im doing. I know all chips are different, and all cores as well. This isnt my first OC, by a long shot.

NB and SB at some point would need a change, but not untill they become the bottleneck. At 4Ghz, they arent, so there is no need to change them at that point. Also, you cant just snap a finger and lower temps. Ive used a high end water kit, and now a Corsair H50 and temps arent that different. Its just how these AMD chips are. 59C is fine, 50C would be better, but its just not happening. The water kit I had would probably get it down to about 54-55C, but its not worth the hassle. Its my gamer, so I dont care that much about it.

The point of this thread was just to share my expeirane with it. A lot of people feel the C3s are made of gold, when they really arent better then the C2s. There were some good cherry picked chips, but the majority are limited to about the same 3.9-4Ghz range the C2s were. I have three friends with them, and all of us are at about the same spot.