Fan controllers, AQUAERO VS mCubed T-Balancer (updated)

[Shoggy]

Eddie3dfx, keep in mind that the multiswitch works with PWM if you want to take control over the power output. In this case the aquastream will go mad if you try to run it since it works only with "real" constant 12V.

[Extigy]

old thread. just to confirm, you cannot control the fanamp power outage using aquareo for some reason. Anyone found a workaround ?

[Brodholm]

old thread. just to confirm, you cannot control the fanamp power outage using aquareo for some reason. Anyone found a workaround ?

I haven't found any workaround, no. And also check this thread. You might be able to use a poweradjust to control a pump or strong fans if it was that you where looking for. I haven't got any answer yet.

And also this thread should be RENAMED. Looking at it now it looks like it is a test or something (a misfortune name by me..). If an admin sees this they could change it to something like Aquaero vs Mcubed T-balancer? pros and cons?. Or to something that describes the thread better. I cant change it myself.

[Dr.Joe]

I dont know much about electronics and stuff, so i will ask before i do anything stupid.
The cpecifications of bigNG state:

What is the difference in analogue and PWM mode...? I have tried it, and in PWM mode my fans started to sing...
I am wondering this, because i would like to plug 8x Scythe Slipstreams 1600RPM (4.92W) to my bigNG with Y splitters. As far as i understand all this specs, the max power states 20W in analogue mode, and that would mean that i cant run all of 8 Slipstreams because they would exceed the power limit... Am i wrong? Am i missing something? Sorry for being such a noob about it, but i realy dont want to fry my bigNG Thanks in advance...

The bigNg can provide way more than 20W in analogue mode, just make sure it gets decent airflow...

And you can't really "kill" the bigNG, if it gets to warm, it switches all fans to 12V and/or PWM

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

looks like pure power its the bigNG and for graphs and total monitoring its the aqua....man tough choices...very tough.

[Coity]

Hi all, sorry to jump on this post but ive just got my t-balancer bigng, dos anyone know if this will work on vista 32bit. all i get is errir's coming up is there any downloads for this. all i can get to work is the navigator server and that dont do much ( pls help

[Bond Number]

Go to the options menu in t-balancer 2.12, then usb connection then select Device driver (API)

[Coity]

hi bond number, ive tryed clicking on t-balancer navigator 2.12 but get a run-time error 339 component sysinfo.ocx is not registered or missing help

[-X-hellfire]

I installed my two T-balancer XL on a fresh install of Windows XP and copied the database tban.mdb, which contains screen locations from another monitor, 19", and its 1600x1200 resolution but now i'm temporarily running an old 14" with 800x600 resolution and can't see the T-Balancer Navigator software as it is "Off Screen" so to speak

What do I do to get it "On Screen"?

[-X-hellfire]

I installed my two T-balancer XL on a fresh install of Windows XP and copied the database tban.mdb, which contains screen locations from another monitor, 19", and its 1600x1200 resolution but now i'm temporarily running an old 14" with 800x600 resolution and can't see the T-Balancer Navigator software as it is "Off Screen" so to speak

What do I do to get it "On Screen"?

Well, it was a mistake to put the T-Balacer panels "Off Screen" and save the tban.mdb so I will connect the 19" monitor and set it to 1600x1200 resolution move the panels "On Screen" for 800x600 then switch to the 14"

Are there any simple "virtual desktop" software than can fix this mess easy?
(thus keeping a 800x600 resolution but make it scrollable to 1600x1200)

btw I haven't installed any nvidia forceware software yet as I'm going to save a ghost-image before I do

[-X-hellfire]

Well, it was a mistake to put the T-Balacer panels "Off Screen" and save the tban.mdb so I will connect the 19" monitor and set it to 1600x1200 resolution move the panels "On Screen" for 800x600 then switch to the 14"

Are there any simple "virtual desktop" software than can fix this mess easy?
(thus keeping a 800x600 resolution but make it scrollable to 1600x1200)

btw I haven't installed any nvidia forceware software yet as I'm going to save a ghost-image before I do

Downloaded a freeware called dexpot and tried it but it prbably needed some graphiccard drivers to work properly, didnt show up any resolutions, so I uninstlled it and switched monitor.

Changed it up to 1600x1200 and found the "Off Screen" panels and positioned them for 800x600




On one of the T-Balancer XL fancontrollers (fan14) the usb does not work yet, have to use FTDI and VCP-driver to run two controllers and it requires some trial and error to get working.

The T-Balancer XL fancontroller (fan58) looks weird too as the Panel for (hdd in nb 6) shows manual and 0% fanspeed but the fan it is spinning and the controller is blinking which indicates correct operation.

[MasterYoda34]

so do these auto fan controllers require you to wire up sensors all over the case or can they use the built in sensors that you would see from something like RealTemp or a GPU monitor?

I am wondering the same thing about the T-balancer. Is is possible to control the fan speeds using the reported CPU / GPU temperature provided the t-balancer is connected via USB? Some one here must know.

Also, any word on whether the t-balancer software /drivers work on Windows 7 RTM 64bit?

[ecat]

t-balancer can certainly access and control to SpeedFan data if this is of any help. Of course, using 3rd party apps to gather the data means control is only valid when the app and the t-ban software are up and running. Off hand I can't remember what the fans do if the sw is not running, full speed maybe or user defined manual setting ?

[beast200]

Hi
i have my T balancer working on windows 7 64 at the present moment
had to install the software and then instal the serial to usb driver from FTDI wed site and not the driver which windows update tries to install

http://www.ftdichip.com/FTDrivers.htm

cheers

mark

[Factotum]

t-balancer review
aquaero usb 4.0 review

[scamps]

t-balancer review
aquaero usb 4.0 review

Just skimmed over you Aquaero-Review:

"10 watt power restriction for a base model of Aquaero just isn’t enough to power the most popular WC pump Laing DDC3.2 (1Plus) with power consumption of 18 watts. The use of integrated pump control features is only available for Aquastream pumps."

The old standardversion (that you have tested) is 10 W per channel and max. 30 W in total for the 4 channels. The new version with "Powerbooster" is 25 W @channel 1, 15 W per channel 2-4 and max. 45 W in total. With it you have got the opportunity to easily control any Laing DDC @channel 1 AND 20 W of fans (it´s possible to enhance this by using an additional "Poweramp") - what´s more 1 flow sensor (with usage of channel 4 even 2) and 6 temperature sensors.

All this including a very nice software, emergency shutoff dependent on rpms, flow or temperature and and and ...

Sounds like an advertising text, but I am really totally confident with this control unit.

[Factotum]

All this including a very nice software, emergency shutoff dependent on rpms, flow or temperature and and and ...

true, but it must be that way. German quality

The old standardversion (that you have tested) is 10 W per channel and max. 30 W in total for the 4 channels. The new version with "Powerbooster" is 25 W @channel 1, 15 W per channel 2-4 and max. 45 W in total.

here

[scamps]

true, but it must be that way. German quality
here

uuups

Nevertheless you should update your Aquaero with the Powerbooster. Without the Aquaero is just a very good fan control unit with limited power out. With Powerbooster it is almost the (in Germany so called) "eierlegende Wollmilchsau"

[Factotum]

the best powerbooster

[Factotum]

With Powerbooster it is almost the (in Germany so called) "eierlegende Wollmilchsau"

in English = all-in-one

[scamps]

the best powerbooster

... and Mr. "Liquid Cooling Museum" Spock

in English = all-in-one

I prefer Eierlegende Wollmilchsau All-in-one sounds like a boring printer device ...

:btt:

[hchristian]

Both sounds good but I am leaning towards the Aquero with better support.

Any solutions to control multiple DDC 3.2s for dual loop purposes?

[scamps]

Both sounds good but I am leaning towards the Aquero with better support.

Any solutions to control multiple DDC 3.2s for dual loop purposes?

Aquero with powerbooster upgrade + PowerAmp http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_...oducts_id=2363

channel 1 (powerboosted): first DDC
channel 2: PowerAmp and behind the second DDC

[hchristian]

Aquero with powerbooster upgrade + PowerAmp http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_...oducts_id=2363

channel 1 (powerboosted): first DDC
channel 2: PowerAmp and behind the second DDC

Has it been implemented before? Links maybe?

I tried searching the forum but couldn't get a satisfactory answer

Another question is, if i daisy chain fans to the remaining channels (3 & 4), will I still be able to monitor/control the rpm?

Many thanks!

[Church]

I wonder if those DIY amps from german forum have same problem as aquaero's poweramp with providing 2 volts less maximum voltage or they are using different schematics and providing full 12V? And if they are able to handle D5, or even dual D5. online autotranslated text to english is not ideal
IIRC commercial mCubed Fanamp provided full 12V voltage with 25W max power (and momentarily higher, for eg. fan/pump startup) .. dunno if it can be enough for D5. It would be nice if someone would test aquaero+fanamp+D5 if he has such things arround - that would be simple way to have best of both worlds (good software && power to handle lot of fans and most powerful pumps) even for those, that aren't experienced with DIY electronic scheme soldering (especially if instructions and schematics are in foreign language) - just stick one or two fanamps in aquaero's ports