Quote Originally Posted by 570091D View Post
why would the cards need to be finished to run unigine? no eng samples or test boards? it was running with the final clocks and shader count? c'mon man....
C’mon fermi is finished, it's done! What's a unfinished card? It's K10 still unfinished? AMD just rolled out a B3 revision with better thermals\clock ratio, it’s k10 still unfinished?
And what kind of excuse is that? Are you telling me that with clocks and shader count on that cards, the nvidia engineers that made Fermi, can't do the math, and come up with performance numbers for the clocks shaders they still expect to reach? Nvidia didn't gave numbers alrady because they didn’t want to, I just speculate about the why.
Quote Originally Posted by 570091D View Post
the nda comes off next week, after waiting this long a few days more won't kill us.
Didn't know that, it makes that demo look less dumb, and this discussion dumber.
Quote Originally Posted by Chumbucket843 View Post
fixed.
Explain please, I like to see you try and fail.
Yes AMD is waiting for fermi benchmarks to figure out what to do next... and the same goes for Nvidia, they were waiting for R800 benchmarks to know what to do with Fermi.
Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
only if they suck... if they are great it will make people camp on their cash

wasnt that the whole point of nvidias pr hype late last year at GTC?
dont buy atis 5xxx cards, fermi is coming soon and look how great it performs and what you can do with it!

now that they COULD create some REAL hype with actual numbers and performance... they only have a very small show at ces and dont talk about perf at all... hmmmmmmmmm why could that be?

im not saying fermi perf sucks, but its clearly not as amazing and way faster than atis cards as some people think, and as nvidia claimed... otherwise they would def show off some numbers or at least make some bold claims like "up to 50% higher perf" and "we will blow ati out of the sky" etc etc...
Precisely.