EXCLUSIVE! New EVGA Classified Dual-Proc Board - 270-GT-W555!

[Necetra]

I hate you, I'm so jealous. Thanks for the awesome info though. (actual details! unlike those other tech sites)

[NeedMoMegaHurtZ]

Do you have any early screens with overclocking attempts? Or is it still being tested with stock settings?

That's what everyone wants to see!

[Serra]

The board is able to run with two entirely different models of CPU, or the same CPU’s at different multipliers.

Explanation demanded. I don't understand how this is meant to work and/or what restrictions are in place here. The two CPU's must be able to talk to one another for stability unless I'm wrong, which would require a second QPI link (meaning Xeon only), and those QPI links would have to run at the same speed to talk to one another, which implies same operating speed, right?

Comments Enjoy/Lard? Is this a feature that thus far no other dual proc board has ever been able to implement somehow, or is that a misunderstanding/miscommunication?

[LardArse]

Explanation demanded. I don't understand how this is meant to work and/or what restrictions are in place here. The two CPU's must be able to talk to one another for stability unless I'm wrong, which would require a second QPI link (meaning Xeon only), and those QPI links would have to run at the same speed to talk to one another, which implies same operating speed, right?

why would qpi be different?

4.0G @ 20x200 (7.2GT/s @ 4.8 QPI ratio) + 3.6G @ 18 x 200 (7.2GT/s @ 4.8 QPI Ratio)....?

[Tobit]

Serra: It probably means you can mix different models/speeds of Xeons and you don't have to run matched sets that server boards of old require(d).

[zalbard]

why would qpi be different?

4.0G @ 20x200 (7.2GT/s @ 4.8 QPI ratio) + 3.6G @ 18 x 200 (7.2GT/s @ 4.8 QPI Ratio)....?

That's the first overclocking info, at least 4GHz then.

[LardArse]

nah dont hype it up so much man, it will be too stressful for me.

[zalbard]

Sorry, my bad.
The board just looks like a monster, so I am really excited to see how it turns out!

[Philly_Boy]

Well, I for one can't believe the negativity shown towards this new product. Not enough of this, doesn't support that, too much power, won't fit in my case... etc. etc. blah blah blah. This is XTREME SYSTEMS and this board represents a tremendous advancement that incorporates some outstanding features, progressive ones at that which will push the limits and open doors for newer and better products down the line. It might not be for everyone, deal with it.... nothing ever is. Hats off to Shamino and the eVGA team for even attempting to bring this board to market. When it does arrive, I for one WILL be purchasing it, and I WILL save up for processors to put in it, and I will enjoy the heck out of it.

Sorry for the rant, but come on folks.....we have something here which is new and exciting.....ENJOY IT!!!!

I totally agree...Peter, please ignore the haters and continue to develop boards that will make the way for more fun when we overclock!! I mean, for those of us who use LN2, who cares how the sata ports are oriented? Those NF200 chips will get collateral cooling from the GPU pots! C'mon, people...do you see how petty this is? This board has but one purpose - to be rode hard and put away wet!!

After seeing Peter smoke a custom modded Classy at the Motor City OC Event last year, I am sure he learned his lesson and put lots of extra places to plug in power if your OC needs it! This saves us from waiting until someone figures out the various volt mods we do with trimmers soldered all over the board to give us more volts when and where we need them.

And I see all the crunchers salivating at the notion of a running a highly overclockable dual proc rig crunching 16 WU's while the 4x GTX295's are folding their a$$es off. If this board came out tomorrow EVGA would sell thru at least a few production runs. Just my two cents fwiw.....

[LardArse]

yea just relax play with clarkdales , gulftowns for a while, then when the novelty wears off theres something else refreshing to push!

[Tobit]

And I see all the crunchers salivating at the notion of a running a highly overclockable dual proc rig crunching 16 WU's while the 4x GTX295's are folding their a$$es off.

This is what I've been asking Santa for.. I shoulda asked EVGA instead.

[Serra]

why would qpi be different?

4.0G @ 20x200 (7.2GT/s @ 4.8 QPI ratio) + 3.6G @ 18 x 200 (7.2GT/s @ 4.8 QPI Ratio)....?

That is technically possible (I suppose, I could be wrong), but you would have to seriously work to tune it so that those speeds matched exactly, down to the very last Hz (which would be a big problem unless you were willing to accept one of two or three block positions that are likely well under full OC potential). Whether the CPU's expect eachother to operate at the same speed would be a good question as well.

Serra: It probably means you can mix different models/speeds of Xeons and you don't have to run matched sets that server boards of old require(d).

Here's the thing though: no-one has ever let this occur. Not Supermicro, not Tyan, etc. If they don't, I'm not sure it's a good idea to try.


Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think it would necessarily be a bad idea or not work at all. Let's say you have some threaded code that gets dispatched to each CPU that depends on eachother... if one CPU is dramatically faster than the other, it could finish all of its threads before the other finishes the first, and that could destabilize the whole tower. This is a guess of course (I'm not a software engineer), but I would think there must be scenarios where running multiple CPUs at different frequencies would cause an issue.


And I still don't see a firm reply about different processors entirely, though I think that if the CPU speed differences pose a problem it pretty much answers that question. Potentially some wiggle room with an over/underclocked set that operate at the same speeds, but that would be a bit of a silly question. I think it seems pretty apparent they do have to be Xeons too, but I'd like to see confirmation on that as well.

[Xoulz]

I totally agree...Peter, please ignore the haters and continue to develop boards that will make the way for more fun when we overclock!! I mean, for those of us who use LN2, who cares how the sata ports are oriented? Those NF200 chips will get collateral cooling from the GPU pots! C'mon, people...do you see how petty this is? This board has but one purpose - to be rode hard and put away wet!!

After seeing Peter smoke a custom modded Classy at the Motor City OC Event last year, I am sure he learned his lesson and put lots of extra places to plug in power if your OC needs it! This saves us from waiting until someone figures out the various volt mods we do with trimmers soldered all over the board to give us more volts when and where we need them.

And I see all the crunchers salivating at the notion of a running a highly overclockable dual proc rig crunching 16 WU's while the 4x GTX295's are folding their a$$es off. If this board came out tomorrow EVGA would sell thru at least a few production runs. Just my two cents fwiw.....

Thats what I was thinking..!

[LardArse]

That is technically possible (I suppose, I could be wrong), but you would have to seriously work to tune it so that those speeds matched exactly, down to the very last Hz (which would be a big problem unless you were willing to accept one of two or three block positions that are likely well under full OC potential). Whether the CPU's expect eachother to operate at the same speed would be a good question as well.

you talkin about different qpi? it will be same as stated, cos you cant sync up with different base clocks obviously, but like on many boards, clock gen to clock buffer to cpus, nothing new or extra being done actually

[eXceeded]

Now an AMD version ?

[jcool]

Wow, a whole lot of uninformed BS going on in here, as usual as of late

First of all I'd like to thank evga on behalf of the entire DC community, this is what we have been waiting for a LONG time now, almost one year to be exact. You guys rock

For those that don't seem to have a clue exactly WHO this board was made for, here we go.

1. Extreme benchers (obviously). There is so much unreleased potential in the DP 1366 platform, with the new soon-to-be released hexacores now more than ever. DP LGA1366 boards have been out for (almost) as long as their single socket counterparts, and so have the CPUs - only until know, there was no way to OC any of the boards past 138Mhz BCLK (yes I have tried them all ).
So now, for the first time, people can actually unleash the power of Gainestown/Westmere. Combined with 4 GPUs, this motherboard will allow for some insane new World Records. Think 2-3x the performance of current multithreaded CPU benchmarks

2. Distributed computing maniacs. Needless to say, moar cores + moar mhz equals moar work done, which is what some of us crave way more than chasing the next WR.

3. Affordable HPC performance for everyone. People used to have to pay top dollar for high end Xeons if they wanted their video/picture/whatever editing machine to pack some punch. Now you can just get the lower end models and OC them by 50-80% just like the standard 920's.

4. Yes it can play Crysis

Again, thank you evga.

Only negative aspect I see is the dual NF200's. I specifically told Dave to make sure this was gonna get dual 5520s to provide for the 72 PCIe lanes, and not those godforsaken power-eating NF200's
Oh well, you can't have everything. Certainly nothing to prevent me from buying at least one of those monsters.

[Blacky]

guru3d has some nice pics

[slim142]

I have to say not even the Rampage III Extreme impressed me this much. This board is :banana::banana::banana::banana: & PLEASURE.

[Buckeye]

Now we need to mod our Cascades for dual evap setups, or just get 2 cascades

[SocketMan]

If you are a married man,then I would suggest practicing the
following line:
Honey, there is somebody else !


I'd like to see a "budget" version with,no nf200 and half as many PCIe slots,and of course a lower price/power bracket.
Just like jcool'; I'd like to thank EVGA, and everyone involved
in making a 2P OCing board come true.

Hopefully now (that we know the board is coming)
AMD (their server/workstation dude J.F. to be precise) will change their "Our customers don't need over clocking,they need 24/7 stability" approach.
How about you give your customers a choice - I know many
crunchers/folders that want Overclocking and Stability.

Have fun in Vegas,watch out for Movieman - he might just
grab this board and run j/k

[BatteryOperated]

I'd like to see a "budget" version with,no nf200 and half as many PCIe slots,and of course a lower price/power bracket.

I desperately want a cruncher box of my own.

[LarsMarkelson]

I'm all for the budget version too! I only run a single card setup, so all that is overkill for me.

That being said, if there's no budget version I'll probably buy it anyways. I could use the power for my work (video editing). Now what's the best case for it + good cooling (hopefully air, not water)? Any ideas? I've read my ATCS 840 won't fit it, despite being huge itself!

[jfromeo]

Now what's the best case for it + good cooling (hopefully air, not water)? Any ideas? I've read my ATCS 840 won't fit it, despite being huge itself!

Same question, will it fit in a Lian Li PC-P80 case? It has 390mm clearance from rear to hard drive cages (~380mm when hard drives are installed due to room needed for connectors).



Sham, is it exactly a WTX form factor motherboard?


Isn't it pr0n?

[Aberration]

I just came out of my meeting at the EVGA suite here in Las Vegas and I have some great pictures and new specs to report on this hot board! I was able to have some one on one time with EVGA's Jacob Freeman and Peter Tan (aka Shamino) and was able to see this new board hands-on (a world first).

[IMG]http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/IMG_0083.jpg[/IMG.]

Please follow me to TechREACTION to get the full report, exclusive new specs & info, and some good shots of the board and EVGA crew.

Holy smokes. I want one just to have it, with 2 of the 6-cores coming out. I cant for the life of me imagine what I would do with it.

I hope they tweak the layout some, like side sata connectors.

[sholvaco]

Same question, will it fit in a Lian Li PC-P80 case? It has 390mm clearance from rear to hard drive cages (~380mm when hard drives are installed due to room needed for connectors).

Mind that I am not an official source but I am still willing to bet parts of my anatomy it will fit this case and all others listed in EVGA E762 FAQ (they are all E-ATX and provide ten PCI brackets). If it doesn't fit this it will not fit any other case in the market.

That is technically possible (I suppose, I could be wrong), but you would have to seriously work to tune it so that those speeds matched exactly, down to the very last Hz (which would be a big problem unless you were willing to accept one of two or three block positions that are likely well under full OC potential). Whether the CPU's expect eachother to operate at the same speed would be a good question as well.

I presume both CPUs use the same clock generator so they are automatically synced up base clock wise. All you'd have to take care of is setting matching multipliers for the QPI (and NB?) part of the CPU. The cores are oblivious to what's going on outside their execution instructions and would chug along gleefully at whatever speed they are allowed to by the core multiplier.