Home made UV dyes

[mlwood37]

My new 4 stage filtering system arrived this morning who hoo. so all the dyes now have to pass through it This helps filter out any particles that may be left over from the powder chems i use. just as a extra precaution.

Samples are going out tomorrow for people. How ever no results will be published as were still in the "mind your own business stage" ..... j/k

God i love working on these.

http://www.wcdyes.com

to come

[NaeKuh]

got the dye.

i'll post up pics tonight as it gets darker so you guys get a better contrast.

[Diverge]

got the dye.

i'll post up pics tonight as it gets darker so you guys get a better contrast.

I'm very curious how it works for you, since it never worked in my system. Although the only thing clear in my system is my Typhoon III (my tubing is UV green colored), and that showed no blue what so ever.

If you have a Typhoon III, I'd be extra curious if you can take some picks showing the color through it. Maybe it doesn't like the T3 :?

[mlwood37]

Diverge - im surprised it never worked for you tbh. the clear blue is not a dye it is a liquid that is used to dye white to white. White clothing isn't actualy white its blue but to get it whiter they use the same product as this. That is why White clothing turns blue under UV and its the same product all makers of UK water cooling use in there clear blue except this stuff is way stronger than any of there stuff as its sold in its purest form.

So any UV should turn it blue. How ever lets see how NaeKuh gets on and if hes happy and your happy ill send you another one but tbh if it isnt working first time around i dont see how a second one will make any difference.

[NaeKuh]

i stuck it under the CCFL's and they glowed.

It was daylight so i couldnt see it brightly, but i did notice it glowing.

I'll put some in a bottle and put it under the light, i think u guys want that.

Then i'll probably put a drop or 2 in my main loop and see how it reacts inside my res.

[Diverge]

So any UV should turn it blue. How ever lets see how NaeKuh gets on and if hes happy and your happy ill send you another one but tbh if it isnt working first time around i dont see how a second one will make any difference.

Yeah, I hear ya. When I put it in a water bottle, I at least saw the tint of blue. But through the T3 res, I saw nothing, even after adding a lot of the UV Clear Blue stuff. The T3 is the only clear thing in my system, so I couldn't look at anything else to see if I could see color.

I still have another bottle of it. I might try it again after I see how Naekuh's results go. I'd take my T3 out of my loop, and just try it by itself for curiosity's sake, But I don't want to keep dismounting / unscrewing fittings ect... It's bound to end up cracking, or stripping out the fitting threads since they are just plastic.

[Diverge]

i stuck it under the CCFL's and they glowed.

It was daylight so i couldnt see it brightly, but i did notice it glowing.

I'll put some in a bottle and put it under the light, i think u guys want that.

Then i'll probably put a drop or 2 in my main loop and see how it reacts inside my res.

Do you happen to have a T3 res to test it on?

[mlwood37]

To be honest some plastic's can retract UV light but id be really surprised if the T3 did is that good that no UV blue shows through.

The biggest problem with clear UV blue is that once you get to a certain amount (so many drops) the blue color will not become any stronger.

Done many tests to try and get a "seriously strong bright blue" color to no avail with out messing up the compound it self.

What brings out better colors for UV liquids are stronger black lights such as disco lights which is the same most manufactures use to take picture of there colors lol. which is cheating quite a bit because you tell me how many ppl have that sort of light in there pc's.

For my pics i used UV leds which showed up the colors and there by no means strong. How ever a thought has cross my mind how about i gab some of theses UV leds and send you some. You can then test them out you self and see if there is a different how ever there not that good in comparison to a "good" uv CCFL.

[radi4fun]

any idea when the site will be up? i really really want to order that candy red or some nice dark red dye. by the way where will you be shipping all this from?

[mlwood37]

Sorry no ETA as of yet.

Shipping will be form the UK.

[radi4fun]

ahhh UK. i'm hoping that shipping won't be a deal breaker to US.

[mlwood37]

The dyes are not a problem for sending they take a few days to arrive though. but the premix might be expensive to send though the post and probably may not be worth it.

Ill check on pricing when im ready to go live for USA.

Just checked on pre mix as it weigh's 1 kg its not worth sending to usa ...

Only dyes would be sent to usa unless i can find it cheap.

[radi4fun]

I was just looking forward to just the tiny bottle of dye. i can just drop 3-5 drops in a distilled water and whala i got me a beautiful looking loop.

[mlwood37]

lol 5 drops would normal be over doing it but yup i can do dyes to usa no problem as post and packing is quite cheap.

How ever i cannot talk about selling in this forum as this thread isnt for that matter only for chat about the product and ideas. keep an eye on the url with in the next 4 weeks.

[NaeKuh]

Do you happen to have a T3 res to test it on?

No.. i am on a boycott on the T3 right now until i start seeing better threads about them.

Also that last statement milli made on "your warrenty gets voided if u use premixes but not if you use primochill" is utter BS.

Aftermarket coolant is all the same crap. Ethyl glycol + h2o + (additional additive).

Im still waiting for an offical word on that if its true or not.

Need a few more hours guys.
I'll show u CCFL vs LED when it gets a bit darker.

BTW thanks again mlwood, i'll give u a good show, cant promise the results tho. :P

[NaeKuh]

Okey, i got some pretty good results with the CCFL, the LED is a fail.

Here is the bottle against a CCFL:


Here is my mixer bottle without any dye:


1 Drop:


2 Drop:


3 Drop:


.2 mL total:


So i took 6mL of the .2mL mix and added it to my res:


Added to res:


.6mL:


Well, its weak on the camera, but it comes out pretty nice in real life against a CCFL.
I dont see anything against a LED tho.

[mlwood37]

Vial = 1.8ml

added 6ml water = 7.8ml

then put 2 ml of that fluid in your system.

and then 6ml ...

Why didn't you just put 1 or 2 drops with the pipette ... out of curiosity.

p.s them pics look rubbish as in no glow at all once you watered it down more lol. Not saying your pics are bad but rather the opposite as in the dye looks rubbish hahaha.

In the vid you can see the effect i get with 1 drop in a 1 pint glass and UV leds underneath the glass.

Im starting to wonder now How come my UV leds are so dammed strong.

Might pull the UV clear blue for more UV test's im not happy with that effect you lot are getting.

[faster3200]

Wow, the blue looks quite nice. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what UV ccfls to buy? The ones I have currently are rubbish.

[mlwood37]

well the UV Led's i use in this tests

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39mFUMbqmlI
&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCsESTt2Ikk

They are available from here

http://www.phenoptix.co.uk/Ultra_Pow...p/5-uv-150.htm

there are the pre wired versions at 12v

http://www.phenoptix.co.uk/UV_Prewir...5mm-uv-12v.htm

Underneath the glass if i remember correctly were 3 x 12v LED 5mm 150mcd with no reflective material.

Each test was done with 1 to 2 drops of dye.

How ever if using them in a case i would recommend that you put some reflective stuff behind the UV leds are the light dissipates badly in a open case and you need to direct it more for a purer glow for the UV colors. Ill get some UV CCFLS before the shop opens and get some pics taken with clear Tubing and res's. I accidentally snapped my UV CCFL's when moving around.

[NaeKuh]

no the camera wont do its justice on the res.

But the res lights up a nice blue.

As i said i use it for diags and i even put some on the floor with that needle i have, and i could see it light up.

Its just dayam hard to get a good picture with that dye.

But yeah mlwood im having a hard time with it and LED's.

On my other loop, remember im running 3, which has led's, i dont see squat.
And i think i put almost 5 drops in a smaller capacity res.

About why i diluted and mix'd... well mlwood, i wanted to see it change gradually, and not go BAM like it did in that little bottle i have.


But i can see it well, my camera cant. :\

NightMode:


This is about the best i think my camera can do.

[mlwood37]

oky thks for the info. Im going to look more into the best CCFL's to use with this dye as i know it has a wide light spectrum to it.

Time to play again me thinks when i get some money together lol ...

NaeKuh A few questions for you.

1) Do u think the way i supply the dyes in a 1.8ml vile and pipette is a good way of selling the dye.

2) Would you say hand on hart that the dye is strong in comparison to others on the market.

3) If you could buy these Vials with a pipette at £3.00 per vial + P&P would you think it was a worth asking price

4) Taking into consideration you have the new Pure clear UV Blue how many systems do you think you could fill with a 1.8 Vial at the amount you would consider acceptable coloring.

5) Would you consider recommending it to a friend if this does finally go retail.

and last but not least thank you for your help.

[NaeKuh]

oky thks for the info. Im going to look more into the best CCFL's to use with this dye as i know it has a wide light spectrum to it.

Time to play again me thinks when i get some money together lol ...

NaeKuh A few questions for you.

1) Do u think the way i supply the dyes in a 1.8ml vile and pipette is a good way of selling the dye.

2) Would you say hand on hart that the dye is strong in comparison to others on the market.

3) If you could buy these Vials with a pipette at £3.00 per vial + P&P would you think it was a worth asking price

4) Taking into consideration you have the new Pure clear UV Blue how many systems do you think you could fill with a 1.8 Vial at the amount you would consider acceptable coloring.

5) Would you consider recommending it to a friend if this does finally go retail.

and last but not least thank you for your help.

1. No.. because i was constantly worried about picking up too much. Also the vile is small, and i was worried about tipping it over. You most definitely need to dilute it in a dropper bottle for ease.

The concentrated vile should be offered, but a dropper is preffered.

2. Yes considering i didnt notice any difference after 3 drops.
This is one dye where more doesnt really help.

3. You price seems fair... i think i would pick some up.

4. As i said 3 drops and i dont notice anything afterwards.
Looking at the rest of the dye thats left, i can safely say i have about more then 5 gallons worth of dye.

5. LOL.. well i like it... so its in the eye of the beholder. Were just worried about what happens to it after its in our systems.

But if they wanted color outside of tubing, i would recommend it. Ive wiped the drop with a tissue, and no blue staining was seen.

But the UV light made it glow brightly.

[mlwood37]

Thks for the answers ..

[theonewhotried]

I have been following this thread for a while, and i have to say
i am quite impressed with what i have seen. The uv reactivity when used in good lighting. I am very surprised on the pricing, I thought it would be more expensive. Looking forward to seeing this on your website.

[mlwood37]

theonewhotried hi there thank you for your comments.

The idea behind all this is to supply you the user with a cheap alternative to every thing on the market yet to sell it at i would consider a value price with out compromising on quality.

To keep the price down we need to use as cheap as possible packaging after all its not whats on the out side that counts but whats on the inside.

Allso when i do go live there will be several products available and these will be -

Dye in 2ml / 5ml / 10 ml
Premix in 1 ltr for (sorry no sale out side of uk unless some one whats to start shipping it)
Powder dye - used for adding to paint , plastic and various other mixes for pc modding. The powder will be sold in its purest form and is Extremely strong.

Now the dye will not be for ever one as this stuff is extremely strong yet value wise there is no other competitor out there selling it like this or at this price. I do aim to expand the shop as well if this takes off with new products but that's in the future. I need to learn to walk before i can run.

There will be discount as for for all uses of the forums i use regular as a way of saying thank you.