Quote Originally Posted by Vivi View Post
i believe nvidia's got a big mother effing surprize waiting for us.
I disagree, just look at NVIDIA's marketing in the past. When they had a winner, it was always well anounced and there was hardly any ambiguity as they were launched on time. Its the samething with intel vs amd, the company with the better product is always sure to launch first.

Just think about how fast the 4870 and 5870 came out compared to the r600, albeit supply was an issue at launch, but there were no major delays. If anything, the 5870 came out earlier than I expected, I thought they would have milked the 4870x2 a bit longer.

I do agree, the debate is senseless over whether that is a real card because more than likely NV will never reveal the truth unless it is advantageous to them (which I don't see happening). However there is also no real discussion needed on whether fermi will be game changing, simply put, if it didn't have problems, it would have been out already (there's no way you can deny that logic, because if its not true, then NV's product must either suck or their management is retarded).