UnOfficial EVGA X58 Classified Owners Thread

[MiKA7]

so keep these 2 within .5v of each other? Is that what your saying or did i mis understand you?

i think 0.5v means 1.65dram and 1.15vtt.. the picture you are showing is 0.05v difference..

[Jabberwock]

My cpu temps were/are fine. Using a TRUE, under load prime small fft or intel burn test never got over 80c. Most of the time under load was 74-77. that 90 spike went away after i added fans to the nb area. Here are some pics of what i added. I just added an 80mm and a 40mmm fan. they are sitting on the video card aiming at the NB HS, either side of the TRUE. For sure this wasn't enough to change the CPU temps much. Since the cpu temp doesnt correspond to the core temps in everest, maybe the cpu/nb temps are actually nb? or is it fact that there is no nb sensor? are there any x58 boards that have a nb sensor?

As far as I understand it, there are 2 types of sensors within the cpu itself. One for measuring the Tcase value (cpu temperature) and the other for measuring Tjunction (core temperatures) As the DTS are located directly on each core, they should register hotter compared to the cpu temp.

Based on what I gathered on Classified users from different forums, the cpu and NB temps will display 2 distinct values in the BIOS only. I cannot confirm this but in BIOS, the board quickly polls between the cpu and NB temps while in windows, there is some type of limitation preventing it from polling the NB.

[dan7777]

someone help me out please how do i use the spdif audio lead with my old motherboard i plugged the cable from my gpu to the inside of my motherboard but this evga x58 sli le board dosn"t appear to have one on the board its self how do i link the audio up on the gpu to the mobo ? thanks in advance. dan

[t_ski]

so keep these 2 within .5v of each other? Is that what your saying or did i mis understand you?

You should have no more than .5v. However, I have seen this recommended several places that you take voltage fluctuations into account and try to set then a little closer together. Something like .45v or less. It doesn't have to be that much - only use what voltage you need.

[Brutal614]

You have to test it for yourself as hardware differs. Each board and set of ram is different, but you can take those values as a hint for what to try first. RTLs are directly coupled to this as well and have to be set up properly not to get hiccoughs.

Cheers,
Stefan. :cheers:

RTL's? Why is this timing so important? What is it? Please forgive my ignorance, I would just like to better understand this so I can attempt to set this correctly on my system. Thanks in advance!

[cstkl1]

RTL's? Why is this timing so important? What is it? Please forgive my ignorance, I would just like to better understand this so I can attempt to set this correctly on my system. Thanks in advance!

ures should be
2k C8 RTL 58,60,62
etc

[nugzo]

good lord that is alot of vtt man

lol gotcha. Thanks. Lowered to 1.5v Ran 50 loops IBT on Very High then Prime Blend overnight. All seems good! My i7-950 will be here tomorrow. cant wait. Triplehead2go and 3 - 22" samsungs will be here tuesday, If i could only find 3 HD5870s somewhere i'd be all set!! Thanks again for the help everyone. I'll be back with more ?s i'm sure.

[Brutal614]

ures should be
2k C8 RTL 58,60,62
etc

Thanks mate! I came across this article as well, to help me better understand what that timing does.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3671&p=6

[cstkl1]

[Brutal614]

What are you cooling your 920 with?

[SAE]

Temps + clocks = water. Yep, it's this easy!

[nugzo]

i think 0.5v means 1.65dram and 1.15vtt.. the picture you are showing is 0.05v difference..

Thanks

As far as I understand it, there are 2 types of sensors within the cpu itself. One for measuring the Tcase value (cpu temperature) and the other for measuring Tjunction (core temperatures) As the DTS are located directly on each core, they should register hotter compared to the cpu temp.

Based on what I gathered on Classified users from different forums, the cpu and NB temps will display 2 distinct values in the BIOS only. I cannot confirm this but in BIOS, the board quickly polls between the cpu and NB temps while in windows, there is some type of limitation preventing it from polling the NB.

Thanks

You should have no more than .5v. However, I have seen this recommended several places that you take voltage fluctuations into account and try to set then a little closer together. Something like .45v or less. It doesn't have to be that much - only use what voltage you need.

Thanks

Your using eleet and in classified thread so i'm assuming the DFI in your sig is either wrong or old?
Nice Clocks there! Just got me a 950 today, installed it 10 min ago. Prayin for 4400-4500 on air. we'll see in a few minutes

[cstkl1]

yup dfi was old

screw dfi for their lazy ass support for high dram clocks..

evga classified is worth it for high dram clocks..
all this high cpu clocks can be done with any other boards

2050-2100mhz C7 is impossible for everyother board at 4.3-4.4ghz.
only thing is i really wish for tRC setting
i have to assume they are following Asus R2e as tRC = tFAW

[cstkl1]

ok here is a table for u guys to understand

take note its only possible to find ure scaling and vtt/dram ratio and vtt/vcore ration when u have a very strong confirmed base

for mine after 4-5 boards
my bclk 200 confirmed



if u notice the downward/upward trend is to maintain the scaling
if i change and confirm one voltage i need to adjust the other two to make sure it stays on that trend

[cstkl1]

also sometimes u need more bios options to maintain this trend.
the dfi doesnt have enough.

and also it will quickly point out proc/ram/mobo/cooling limitations.
the trend tends to work best at below 80C

[Sam_oslo]

also sometimes u need more bios options to maintain this trend.
the dfi doesnt have enough.

and also it will quickly point out proc/ram/mobo/cooling limitations.
the trend tends to work best at below 80C

If you found a trend that works for your CPU and RAM on EVGA, it doesn't mean that it ould work the same for others, or wouldn't work on DFI.

You should be careful with generalizing your theories before you can prove it in a proper manner.

[cstkl1]

If you found a trend that works for your CPU and RAM on EVGA, it doesn't mean that it ould work the same for others, or wouldn't work on DFI.

You should be careful with generalizing your theories before you can prove it in a proper manner.

next time ask before posting something. this works. and was tested on few proc's.

increament and voltages will differe but it works up to 4.4ghz
this is are the way to measure ratios and estimate on them.

this trend was founded on DFI and adapted to work on evga for 2100mhz and 2050 reason being they had more options to make it work.
the only parameters required is to make sure the temps are below 80C.

i didnt theorize
except the last one
the voltages are measured with dmm.. tested on 3 DKs' 2 UTs and one 760.i actually handpicked my dfi boards to find the most accurate board.
the ut i had what i set is what i get. the evga was just pure random.


2100mhz C7 on dfi and 2050 C7 is impossible for ultimate stability due to lack of timing options for the first and inconsistent pairing of mem skew via bootup with rtl.

take note this was tested with elpida hyper..and that also with a very good batch.

[Sam_oslo]

next time ask before posting something. this works. and was tested on few proc's.

increament and voltages will differe but it works up to 4.4ghz
this is are the way to measure ratios and estimate on them.

this trend was founded on DFI and adapted to work on evga for 2100mhz and 2050 reason being they had more options to make it work.
the only parameters required is to make sure the temps are below 80C.

i didnt theorize
except the last one
the voltages are measured with dmm.. tested on 3 DKs' 2 UTs and one 760.

2100mhz C7 on dfi and 2050 C7 is impossible for ultimate stability due to lack of timing options for the first and inconsistent pairing of mem skew via bootup with rtl.

Sorry, may i ask? with your permission please?

Why don't you talk about yourself and what you and your RAM + CPU(s) need?

When you say "also sometimes u need more bios options to maintain this trend.
the dfi doesnt have enough"
With your permission, what works for me, doesn't necessarily works for your CPU + RAM too. Why should somebody talk about what others need without a proper documentation of his own finding first?

You bringing inn some new parameters too, that without documentation too, when you say:
"the only parameters required is to make sure the temps are below 80C.", with your permission.

[Sam_oslo]

@cstkl1
It would be easier to use the ignore option than documenting your genius findings, with 80'C and other BS, I guess. Go ahead , make my day.

[cstkl1]

nothing is ever set in stone and i dont mind if u say i am wrong
show me i am wrong on the ratio trend.
my clocks are there to see.
and ive tested this over and over on three boards 3 procs, 3 different pairs of elpida hypers.
the trend for mine works..
again its no the value i am talking about.. the trend.
whenever i go against it.. i am always i need to adjust the other voltage
hence y i never even said this will work
but understand the table.

btw all my clocks for the post above for dfi, evga is here
on 3 different procs and 3 boards, and 3 different sets of rams.

[Sam_oslo]

also look at the table or heck draw one
ive tested this many times
if i change the vcore to higher when i dont need it
my dram,vtt has to change.

It is much better now. I'm sure this works for you, but you can't say it works for me and others too.

But you have gone further than this, you been claiming some general rules about limitations on DFI, based on your own limited testings. Without any proper documentation about any of your claims.

VVT is very CPU-batch dependent, my CPU doesn't follow this ratio you are talking about.

[cstkl1]

It is much better now. I'm sure this works for you, but you can't say it works for me and others too.

But you have gone further than this, you been claiming some general rules about limitations on DFI, based on your own limited testings. Without any proper documentation about any of your claims.

VVT is very CPU-batch dependent, my CPU doesn't follow this ratio you are talking about.

look at the whole post
have i EVER said this will work for u
or jesus or anybody??
u are assuming a lot of things
i told whats my ratios are
and scaling is.
and dfi lack off
and just said understand the table.
ure the one thats making it a general rule.

well ure definately and no one else is testing 2050mhz CL7 to 2100mhz CL7 on dfi is there.

the most stable there ever was on "documented 2050cl7 for dfi is on siggy and its not stable".
dfi is lacking
whether u want to accept it or not
ure just in the wrong thread
defending a board that could have been as good as the classified.

[Sam_oslo]

look at the whole post
have i EVER said this will work for u
or jesus or anybody??
u are assuming a lot of things
i told whats my ratios are
and scaling is.
and dfi lack off
and just said understand the table.
ure the one thats making it a general rule.

Oh, this was good. Show me something that you mean i should get jealous about, with documentation please, if I may ask.

Come on, you know what I'm talking about. Talk about your good results on EVGA, we all like to see some good stuff, but don't try to ..... others without proper documentation.

[cstkl1]

Oh, this was good. Show me something that you mean i should get jealous about, with documentation please, if I may ask.

Come on, you know what I'm talking about. Talk about your good results on EVGA, we all like to see some good stuff, but don't try to ..... others without proper documentation.

have u actually read the few pages before on the 2100mhz C7 4.4ghz stable on evga??
or the 4.3ghz 2050mhz stable for evga??. tested on prime95.
which is totally in consistent for dfi for the reasoning i already told u above.

its seriously hard to talk to somebody like u who never tried.

jealous?? are u eight years old?/
did u know what the whole last few pages before u came stumbling into this thread is all about
was ppl asking about ratio's and rtl.s
hence y i posted mine.

btw is there a 2050mhz 4.3ghz or 2100mhz CL7 4.4ghz running on the dfi out there that i dont know about??
please link it with a prime 95 on 2-4 hours of 5.4gb blend.
ty

[Sam_oslo]

@cstkl1
I have been reading. You may share your ratios, even if it doesn't work for everybody, that's not what I'm talking about. But you have been generalizing too much on too many fronts without proper documentations. Some of them just BS, like 80'C-parameter (which is big BS).

You may talk about your experience with DFI too, but you have been talking (may I say bashing?) in a general way, without proper documentation.

It is not a good idea to talk about what you can't get on a MB. Maybe somebody else can find a way around the problems which you failed to figure out. This is where my generalizing are, but yours are a bit different.