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    From my experience with the modded BIOS, its helping lower volts for me. With vanilla 2202 I needed 1.4v NB to even attempt that.. nevermind get it stable. Currently I'm sitting on 475FSB PL8, deffo not too shabby for minimal work

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    I have the bios 1901 also I have the g-skill trident 2x2 1066mhz, all that it he bears in oc without moving 1.8v?


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    Stay on 1.8v, your memory should be good with that voltage. I'm not sure I understand what you were asking.
    For chipset voltage, it depends what performace level and clock twister you want to run as well. Try 10 and 'lighter', then raise them. Try and stay around 1.3-1.4v for northbridge.
    Did I understand your question correctly?

    I would like to know how well the tridents work. I'm considering buying some different memory. Will you try to overclock it?
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    Hey fellas, I have a hard time getting my q6600@3.8GHz.

    I had asus p5k and biostar tpower i45 before and my q6600 would run stable at that freq with 1.46V (same as I used on m2f), but now I seem pretty lost in all the options of this MB. It needs roughly 1.5V to get to win without bsod.

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    Could you help me out with this maybe?.

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    Trust me, I wasted months trying to get my Q6600 stable when overclocked. The only 2 things I feel are worth suggesting are to try adjusting CPU/NB skews to something like 100 for CPU and 200, 300 or 400 for NB. This helped me stabilise a lot at higher fsb, but test your own values and find the most stable point. I also found it was a lot easier to get 450x8 stable than 410x9 for some reason, so try to find out your max fsb, if you can boot 470-490 easily then it might be worth trying the x8 multiplier. You will probably need higher vtt and NB for this though. You'll also need to tune GTLs over 450fsb. Good luck with that, keep us posted

    On another note, I'm having a lot of trouble getting ~96-64k FFT stable. I've tried raising pll, vtt, nb voltages and adjusting gtls, but it just doesn't want to play ball. It always resets when hitting 96k and occasionally fails the 80k prior to that. Another overnight bleand test proved stable everywhere else until it hit the 96k range. At this point temps are at their highest across the board, but don't go far over 50°C which is still lots cooler than with my Q6600 before so I don't think its overheating (Q9650 hits 62-63°).
    Anyone else experienced this and know how to stabilise?

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    not sure anyone saw this sticky yet?they are focusing on the
    newer chipsets but say they will accept input on all ROG products
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=238770
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    I've remembered it wroooong godamit

    I had 3.6GHz@1.46V (drop was about 0.03), so i don't actually have a problem...

    Works fine
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    On Maximus 2 Formula and setfsb what code should i use?
    This far the ICS9LPRS918BKL is worked pretty good.

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    SETFSB does not yet support P45, it freezes mines. (look in "read me")

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    Quote Originally Posted by humeyboy View Post
    SETFSB does not yet support P45, it freezes mines. (look in "read me")
    OK.
    Its weird that i have tried ICS9LPRS918BKL and JKL and some 919 ended works just fine for me.

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    ICS9LPRS918BKL this is the one that works for all
    the P5Q series it should work with the MaxII.
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    It is possible to use the Heatpipe cpu and Mosfet Nb of the Asus Rampage extremes?..
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    Possible, never tried. However they are essentially identical in design, I'd be extremely surprised if there was any temp difference at all assuming you could even use it. You should be able to screw on the extra NB fins from the REX in place of the stock 'pin fin' NB block.....not sure if this would help at all though the main issue is the crappy block & 3 layers of paste. The basic design is absolutely terrible for both HPA's.

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    Did a bit of a rebuild today and pimped my rig. Nice to be able to monitor coolant temps now. Also got rid of the heatsink assembly. NB temps weren't reassuring enogh for me. Now I feel I can give this thing some volts and see how it fares

    Here's my post in the w/c gallery thread:
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1298

    And the kind of load temps I'm looking at:


    Unfortunately after removing my waterblock I noticed it wasn't making fulll contact with one corner of the CPU, I think it's surface is really uneven, but really don't want to lap it yet. Temps are still quite even on all cores though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefra2008 View Post
    I have the bios 1901 also I have the g-skill trident 2x2 1066mhz, all that it he bears in oc without moving 1.8v?


    Maximus2 formula
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    2x2 trident 1066mhz 1.8v wath chipset it has ?
    please please please guys, dont listen to this animal...what he is doing is to overclocking his computer, damaging it and then he sell it, he doesn't know anything about overclocking.
    Here in chile, mikefra is a liar and a scammer, after doing this, he sell his computer...this is the only place where he can get some help with his computer

    sorry my english, if you can, read this

    http://www.overclockers.cl/foros/ind...owtopic=249604

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=...d=175764822034

    http://www.tarreo.com/foro/index.php?showtopic=528498

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    http://www.chw.net/foro/overclocking...e-mikefra.html

    bye
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    good news for you de5tr0yer btw I guess I must have just had quite a naff q6600, yours seems to fly along nicely. Are you gonna try and push higher?

    I've spent the past couple of days tweaking my board with this q9650 and I gotta say it does suit it very nicely. I'm running some good speeds at good volts with plenty of headroom for both temperature and voltage. So far I've managed 4.32GHz P95 stable (one complete blend loop at 480x9) with a measily 1.3v
    Been at 490x9 for a day or so, but still not quite got it right. It's failing around the 320-256kfft mark, changing voltages hasn't helped, but still more to explore - gtls next - I'm sure this will get me close and I'll discover what needs adjusting to help compensate. I'm also suspecting skews to 300/300 might be worth a try as it helped me to do a 1M PI bench at 509x9, alas, I've still not broken the 10s barrier

    One major setback is the rather high improbability that I'll manage anything over 500fsb stable which is a shame, I'm sure this CPU could do a lot more.

    Any recommendations from this point?

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    I was removing HSF from my board, the stupid reverse thread screw that feeds down through the board to a normal thread not became loose, preventing me from removing the HSF.
    My only option was to lever in a mini visegrip to try and hold the screw to allow me to get the nut of and remove the HSF.

    Anyways, the vicegrips slipped and i damaged a capacitor, didnt look too bad but when i fired it up the two small compoents circled blew.
    They also need to be replaced, but I'm waiting on some info so i can identify them.

    I have sourced a repacement capacitor and have a decent soldering station.
    I have also successfully recapped motherboards before.





    If anyone can help (Im asking around) with identifying the components in the red area I would be very gratefull indeed.
    A close up picture showing the markings on the 2 small components (resistors i think?). Thanks
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    Sorry to say mate, but I wouldn't hold a lot of hope. Your best bet might be to try and get another broken M2F and swap bits from that, but those parts are tiny and although I worked in a SMT factory, these parts are very hard to identify. I would also say that its likely other components are now damaged because you switched it on after you broke it. I'd go for a new board to be on the safe side, damage around that area could mean bad things for your CPU/RAM

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    You could try to rma it. I had the same situation with my Maximus Formula board:
    I removed heatpipe and installed alternative coolers and at the first start a small piece was damaged. So I reinstalled the old pipe and sent it to the shop. A few days later I got a mail from the shop that they saw that the heatpipe was removed and that they will send it to Asus. 2 weeks later I got my board back from Asus, repaired!
    Really lucky I guess. But it`s worth a try (that`s very bad english, isn`t it? But I don`t know it better, sorry.)!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bhzrd_rs4 View Post
    please please please guys, dont listen to this animal...what he is doing is to overclocking his computer, damaging it and then he sell it, he doesn't know anything about overclocking.
    Here in chile, mikefra is a liar and a scammer, after doing this, he sell his computer...this is the only place where he can get some help with his computer

    sorry my english, if you can, read this

    http://www.overclockers.cl/foros/ind...owtopic=249604

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=...d=175764822034

    http://www.tarreo.com/foro/index.php?showtopic=528498

    http://www.madboxpc.com/foro/Asus-Ra...a-t109517.html

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    http://www.chw.net/foro/overclocking...e-mikefra.html

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    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=850009

    Tried to do a superpi 32m at that speed, but I crashed 7,5 minutes into the test.
    Do note the pretty high NB stress. I'm running the 1:1 RAM divider because my ram sucks.
    Can boot into windows with same setup with ram at 1225mhz, but it is less stable. Crashes 3 minutes into 32M superpi.
    I'm also running all 4 slots occupied.

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    Same as I stated in other thread means next to nothing unless hours of Prime and a few runs of IntelBurnTest.

    I have been in /windows running normal everyday Programs/Apps at over 500FSB but then next restart it will not work, thats Asus for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humeyboy View Post
    Same as I stated in other thread means next to nothing unless hours of Prime and a few runs of IntelBurnTest.

    I have been in /windows running normal everyday Programs/Apps at over 500FSB but then next restart it will not work, thats Asus for you.
    My MIIF is sensitive to NB temps once latency starts to get down under 60ns..or if pushing for FSB over 515mhz. DICE'd it will run 575FSB + with tighter latency..but air cooled limit for me, is ~520mhz FSB with ~57ns latency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post
    My MIIF is sensitive to NB temps once latency starts to get down under 60ns..or if pushing for FSB over 515mhz. DICE'd it will run 575FSB + with tighter latency..but air cooled limit for me, is ~520mhz FSB with ~57ns latency.
    Your on a Dual Core m8, I had 575FSB with my E8600 with lowish voltages (8GB Memory).

    A Quad Core is a different kettle of fish though.

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    Hello

    I have changed out my board for a foxconn black ops.
    It now sits in its box and I have no use for it.
    It is a great board, I just could not pass up the good deal from newegg for the x48.

    If I was to sell this asus board, what would I get for it?
    Where would be a good place to sell it?
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