UnOfficial EVGA X58 Classified Owners Thread

[dejanh]

oh, not just that, the ommitting the spacers can break the digital mosfets too, i've seen many boards with crushed mosfets and i know what was being done to these boards.

Definitely. Spacers are a must, only here there was no spacers actually included for the SB area. I already told Eddy about this and he is going to keep it in mind. It's funny how the smallest details can make a huge impact. Had to inform people though since I'd hate to see others go through the same thing as me or worse yet RMA perfectly good boards to get some shoddy replacements for nothing.

[SAE]

I had a complete set of spacers included... my only problem with the sb area was that there was one of the relatively big spacers interfering with the sb's corner. I could not get it in place. So I only have one spacer there, but I tried to avoid overtightening screws there.

[dejanh]

I had a complete set of spacers included... my only problem with the sb area was that there was one of the relatively big spacers interfering with the sb's corner. I could not get it in place. So I only have one spacer there, but I tried to avoid overtightening screws there.

You got lucky by fluke. Eddy does not include spacers for SB and the instructions do not require you to put any. He does not include them exactly because of that reason - it is hard to fit the spacers around the SB. However, if you shave off 1/4mm off one of the spacers you can fit it around the SB no problem. He knows now so he will probably be including a full set with all future blocks. I tried not to over-tighten as well originally, but like I said even the smallest turn-too-much would result in problems. Spacers for every screw are absolutely necessary to guarantee long-term trouble free installation.

[cstkl1]

I had a complete set of spacers included... my only problem with the sb area was that there was one of the relatively big spacers interfering with the sb's corner. I could not get it in place. So I only have one spacer there, but I tried to avoid overtightening screws there.

eh the full coverage block
theres 4 spacers for the pwm
and 4 spacers which 2 are for NB and two for the area just above the sb

none for SB.

[cstkl1]

btw is spacers = standoffs right.

it was a to get that 8 to stay in place
cant imagine if we had to use another 4.

[dejanh]

btw is spacers = standoffs right.

it was a to get that 8 to stay in place
cant imagine if we had to use another 4.

Yep, standoff == spacer. 8 are included, but really 10-12 should be to cover the SB as well, and potentially the are with a few small chips just below the VRM. I actually found that mounting them is very easy. I do it by placing the board partially off the table and using some heavy book on one corner of the board to make sure it does not fall or move once the block is in place. Spacers just get arranged where they need to be prior to placing the block (of course ) followed by carefully lowering the block onto the board and then screwing in the screws slowly from below. All the holes should be visible as the motherboard is mostly hanging off the table

By the way, I'm up to 4.5GHz LinX and 12h+ Prime95 stable at ~1.39V load on the E759 atm I can actually do ~4.6GHz stable, but past 215MHz BCLK I cannot resume from S3 so I do not consider that to be 100% stable. Uncore is at ~4.1GHz with DRAM at ~1720MHz, 7-8-7-20-58-1T timings.

[SAE]

I had 12 spacers included... still have 3 spare ones. Mounted 4 at main pwm area, 2 at the NB, 2 at NF200 and 1 at the SB.

[dejanh]

I had 12 spacers included... still have 3 spare ones. Mounted 4 at main pwm area, 2 at the NB, 2 at NF200 and 1 at the SB.

You're probably the only one lol Normally there are only 8 included and required by the instructions. Anyway, Eddy knows about it now.

[mrcape]

Hah, it was a small pain to get those in place but I had a little idea that helped make it a breeze. I used a bit of elmers glue on the standoffs/sink, let dry for 5 minutes. I used paper painters tape to hold the screws in place on the board. I sat the board on foam mat and simply placed the sink right onto the screws. Then I carefully lifted the whole sandwich vertical and screwed in the screws. Voila, all spacers and screws in place and no messed up tim or dropped screws.

[cstkl1]

Yep, standoff == spacer. 8 are included, but really 10-12 should be to cover the SB as well, and potentially the are with a few small chips just below the VRM. I actually found that mounting them is very easy. I do it by placing the board partially off the table and using some heavy book on one corner of the board to make sure it does not fall or move once the block is in place. Spacers just get arranged where they need to be prior to placing the block (of course ) followed by carefully lowering the block onto the board and then screwing in the screws slowly from below. All the holes should be visible as the motherboard is mostly hanging off the table

By the way, I'm up to 4.5GHz LinX and 12h+ Prime95 stable at ~1.39V load on the E759 atm I can actually do ~4.6GHz stable, but past 215MHz BCLK I cannot resume from S3 so I do not consider that to be 100% stable. Uncore is at ~4.1GHz with DRAM at ~1720MHz, 7-8-7-20-58-1T timings.

on the overclock..
well u should clock that high since 759 clock to clock is much slower than 760

but anyways i am looking for high dram clock with high cpu..
anything but that is just a idiots game to increasing voltage.
skill = 0

[dejanh]

on the overclock..
well u should clock that high since 759 clock to clock is much slower than 760

but anyways i am looking for high dram clock with high cpu..
anything but that is just a idiots game to increasing voltage.
skill = 0

Thanks, you're so gentle and articulate as always

But joking aside now...

759 clock to clock is much slower than 760

Proof? This is very misinformed tbh...but I'll give you a chance...

And as far as DRAM goes...



You like? I like... It is 1600MHz DRAM after all...but if you want to send me a nice 2GHz kit or better I'll do better still My wallet likes my money too.

[cstkl1]

Thanks, you're so gentle and articulate as always

But joking aside now...



Proof? This is very misinformed tbh...but I'll give you a chance...

And as far as DRAM goes...



You like? I like... It is 1600MHz DRAM after all...but if you want to send me a nice 2GHz kit or better I'll do better still My wallet likes my money too.

lol sorry dude wasnt meant at u or anyone but on x58 as a whole.
always been a ram addict.

and .. i thought it was proven that the 759 to be clock to clock slower than other x58 by vr and other websites??
and afaik it still is.

sending u those rams doesnt mean u can clock it btw.
and whats the beef they aint that expensive in the first place.
even a gskill trident with bbse chipset aint that expensive

seriously get some
and then u know what dram clocking is.

a lot of ppl seriously dont realize how good SAE clocks are and how good the bios for the classifieds are
everything i ever wanted the dfi to have the EVGA team has done it. except hmm tRC....

everybody assuming if they get those rams they can run 2100mhz stable at 4.4ghz.
this assumption should be noted as mother of all ups


his clocks are so good with that stability that
it just makes the rest of the clocks on this thread look pure noobie rubbish.

[dejanh]

lol sorry dude wasnt meant at u or anyone but on x58 as a whole.
always been a ram addict.

and .. i thought it was proven that the 759 to be clock to clock slower than other x58 by vr and other websites??
and afaik it still is.

sending u those rams doesnt mean u can clock it btw.
and whats the beef they aint that expensive in the first place.
even a gskill trident with bbse chipset aint that expensive

seriously get some
and then u know what dram clocking is.

a lot of ppl seriously dont realize how good SAE clocks are and how good the bios for the classifieds are
everything i ever wanted the dfi to have the EVGA team has done it. except hmm tRC....

everybody assuming if they get those rams they can run 2100mhz stable at 4.4ghz.
this assumption should be noted as mother of all ups


his clocks are so good with that stability that
it just makes the rest of the clocks on this thread look pure noobie rubbish.

Haha, no worries Just messing with you

I agree clocking with high DRAM is more challenging, definitely, but not impossible. I'm sure I'd at least do okay. The experience gained over the years at least counts for something. I will eventually pick up a nice set to mess around with. WC is draining my budget atm + I built a massive overkill of an HTPC with a 3.8GHz clocked i7 920 D0 in it haha

And that VR zone crap about E759 being slow? Not an f-in chance. I did a clock for clock comparison to their tests myself and pretty much beat or matched every bench they did. I don't believe it for a second. Only thing I will believe is that NF200 may introduce some latency in graphics benches, and one thing that I will say for certain is that the Classified requires serious tweaking before it will perform, unlike other boards out there that do mostly perform out of the box. Down side for other boards though is that they just do not lend to customizing and overclocking like the Classified does. My $0.02

[cstkl1]

thats the assumption ive been talking about
clocked a 790 2000mhz cl8 4gb
x48 re 554fsb 1800mhz cl8 4gb
x58 2100 mhz cl7
x48 ddr2 1200mhz 4x1gb cl5 trd7
p45 ddr2 1200mhz 4x1gb cl5 trd 8
prime 24 stable and for 775 it pass 4096 prime for four hours
they all were different and assumption of past experience
helps future experience is utter bs

anyways SAE
still getting inconsistency for my 2100

[cstkl1]

also dejan what tweaking??
so little compare to alot of the 775 board
but coming from a few x58 board
i love classy bios

[dan7777]

im running the evga sli le board and its a dream to work with

[cstkl1]

initial test ...

evga set 1.64v
bios read 1.67v
dmm read 1.6502v

[cstkl1]

SAE hmm i am not sure but might be a fluke

4 boards... same proc.. DMM read is always the same... for set DRAM Voltage.

[dejanh]

also dejan what tweaking??
so little compare to alot of the 775 board
but coming from a few x58 board
i love classy bios

Well, you can't expect the same tweaking options with an IMC as you had with an external memory controller. From an engineering perspective there are a lot more limitations that get imposed when you design an IMC vs. external memory controller. That said, tweaking DRAM timings clears up pretty much all of the supposed "bottleneck" or "slowness" or however you want to call it that the weak VR-Zone review goes on and on about. Quite literally when I read that article way back it took me 2 minutes to adjust the BIOS to best their "better" boards. Classified a slow board? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

SAE hmm i am not sure but might be a fluke

4 boards... same proc.. DMM read is always the same... for set DRAM Voltage.

Hmm...my DRAM voltage has always been pretty accurate on the Classified, but I think it did over-volt by about 0.01V - 0.02V or something. I don't get that crazy difference in BIOS reading as you do though.

[billdavis]

im stuck @ 4.670 for 3dm03 cant break 7 at all

anyone have 4.7+ settings they can post

[SAE]

Hey cstkl1, mate,

I am of no real help atm, since I have no running system still. But that will change soon as I am getting my unit from duniek and Dimas soon.

Greetz,
Stefan.

[cstkl1]

custom blend..
4.3ghz HT ON 2050 7-7-7-20 1N

should pass 4 hours...
not going to go for 12 ..
going for 4.4ghz now.

4.4ghz HT on 2100mhz CL7.. is the aim..

[2000army]

I got the Eddy Classified Block .... it came w/ 9 standoffs ... only used 8 on marked places ... hope it will be ok.

Funny thing about the EK block the voltage part of the block was assembled backwards ... Thank God i caught it ... can see someone new to WC'ing trying to force it over the area. No worries though took 5 min to change it around.

[dejanh]

I got the Eddy Classified Block .... it came w/ 9 standoffs ... only used 8 on marked places ... hope it will be ok.

Funny thing about the EK block the voltage part of the block was assembled backwards ... Thank God i caught it ... can see someone new to WC'ing trying to force it over the area. No worries though took 5 min to change it around.

I'd really suggest you use the standoffs around the SB. My problems did not show up for 4-5 months. The standoffs are not needed around the NF200, if you even have one.

@cstkl1 - can you please elaborate on what the deal is with the whole "ratio" you are talking about, Vcore to VTT?

In terms of your other observation of required VTT to run DRAM of certain speed...that's driven by Uncore. Generally to run ~4GHz Uncore you will need about +200mV - +225mV. To run 4.2GHz Uncore you will need about +275mV - +325mV, and finally to run 4.3GHz Uncore you will need ~+375mV and so on. Basically, past about 4GHz scaling on Uncore is 0.125V per every 200MHz on most chips. That's your rule for running DRAM as well. If you can scale the Uncore you will scale your DRAM too. Your DRAM timings of course will depend on the quality of your ICs. Feel free to disagree with me, but do justify it if you do disagree. I would love to get an alternative perspective. As it is right now, I don't see what the big deal is about pushing DRAM high...granted it makes the overclocks harder because you got to push both the cores and "uncore", but that's it SAE can do better with this chip because he has more multipliers open to him. For you or me or anyone with a 920 we need to push the DRAM higher the higher we push the BCLK. We do not have an option to run Uncore at 4GHz and DRAM at 2GHz with 4.6GHz overclocks...

I think you're over-engineering this problem...but like I said earlier I invite you to challenge this interpretation...my $0.02.

[zalbard]

Hi everyone!
I am considering a new PSU for my Classified. I need one to get both of 8 pin motherboard connectors covered.
What can you suggest? I'd love something 80+ certified, and I don't need too much power, 850-1000W would be optimal.
I'd also like to avoid PSU problems, I know that Enermax is having compatibility issues, maybe some other units, and I'd like to avoid that.
I had a look at Corsair PSUs so far. HX1000 looks fine. However, HW850 looks even better, it's cheaper and single rail. However, it has only 1x 8 pin cable for the motherboard. What else can you suggest?
And (noob question inc) 8 pin (6+2 for that matter) PCI-Express cables would not work with 8 pin motherboard connectors, would they?
Thanks in advance.

Edit: modular is a must!