5900 series behind the corner

[annihilat0r]

lol so an extra 5870 brings 4 fps to the table

[grimeleven]

They really should have gone with a 2 fans setup as a base. That 1st GPU pulling out it's heat into the 2nd GPU HS isn't a good cooling solution for those monster X2's.

Is it that the 2nd fan cost that much for not adding it in a way where the X2 would be to pricey. At that point consumers wouldn't care the added cost of a fan for lower temps and stability over the headaches users had previously with the 4870X2 overheating/failures. Since i've got my AC xtreme 3 fans, my X2 is never getting past 57celcius, now with that "OC protection" they put into the 58XX one could have lot of headroom for OC

[Sh1tyMcGee]

Same garbage cooling as the 4870x2. Its gonna sound like an airplane. No thanks. 2 bigger fans would do much better, id pay $50 more for a better cooling solution.

[jtdigital]

will this be released by christmas?

[Chickenfeed]

Ha! I *so* called the clock speeds on this thing. I knew it wouldn't be 2 full fully clocked 5870s from the get go and seeing that confirmed makes those 5870 purchases all the better. And 13.5"? Jebus Christoph! Do they offer installation via fork lift? I have a feeling that this card won't be nearly as well received as the 4870x2. As for this "up the sleeve" deal that AMD are said to have, I'll believe it when I see it.

Next thing to do in the mean time is have some CF 5870 users downclock their cards to 725/1000 and bench. I am assuming we will be graced with the same old PLX interface between the gpus so performance should be very similar after altering the clocks that said.

[LordEC911]

There is supposedly a full speed 5870x2 coming along...

[mursaat]

only 1gb ram?

god damit where are my 2gb cards....

1 month later, so you buy the 1gb version, and later you neeed to sell it to get the 2gb version.

So yes, we are all retailers of AMD (and Intel, nvidia, etc). It's their game. I don't think they wouldn't be able to release the X2 at the same time as the 5870, it's just that if they do it this way they sell a lot more

[gurneyhck]

1 month later, so you buy the 1gb version, and later you neeed to sell it to get the 2gb version.

So yes, we are all retailers of AMD (and Intel, nvidia, etc). It's their game. I don't think they wouldn't be able to release the X2 at the same time as the 5870, it's just that if they do it this way they sell a lot more

I would agree with you, but... it is a known problem that eyefinity is NOT working on the X2 at this moment (or at least at the release of the 5870). So they surely wanna fix that first, they are not going to launch the card without eyefinity support.

[tajoh111]

13.5", THAT's damn garbage. I have a lian li full size case, and with harddrives, its not going to fit. With clearance for the air intake, your looking at 14.5" inches. How many cases can fit this card.

[Baulten]

It'll fit fine in my Obsidian

[annihilat0r]

Don't you guys think this card's John Holmes length will hamper its sales somewhat?

looks like even not all full towers will be able to take this.

[Bodkin]

It'll fit fine in my Obsidian

+1

[Manicdan]

anyone else think tri slot coolers for X2 cards are needed?

[Vit^pr0n]

Same garbage cooling as the 4870x2. Its gonna sound like an airplane. No thanks. 2 bigger fans would do much better, id pay $50 more for a better cooling solution.

Right. But all the rest of the people that can even afford an x2 card will either be going WC, or an aftermarket solution.

Do you honestly think ATi is going to release a card with an amazing HSF? That would kill the aftermarket cooling business, not to mention increase the price which is probably something people would cry about.

[Helloworld_98]

anyone else think tri slot coolers for X2 cards are needed?

some are already tri-slot, it's just that they're aftermarket one's or they're added by the company.

[marten_larsson]

13.5", THAT's damn garbage. I have a lian li full size case, and with harddrives, its not going to fit. With clearance for the air intake, your looking at 14.5" inches. How many cases can fit this card.

Air intake? There is only one air intake and it's on top/bottom of the card. Those Batmobile-thingy's are just for show.

[zalbard]

[FUD] HD 5970 dual card spec'd

We've come across an early listing of AMD's upcoming dual-GPU Hemlock card, or the HD 5970 to be exact. AMD dropped the X2 moniker from its dual-GPU cards, so now we will have a bit more numbers to be confused by.

Bear in mind that the spec is still unofficial, so take these numbers with a grain of salt. The HD 5970 apparently packs to RV870 chips clocked at 725MHz and 2GB of GDDR5 memory clocked at 1000MHz on two 256-bit buses. If you're thinking these are HD 5850 clocks, you are right. However, the HD 5970 has 2 x 1600 stream processors and 2 x 80 texture units, twice what you'd get on an HD 5870.

There's still no word on power consumption, but we're probably looking at more than 300W. AMD is still facing serious shortages of HD 5000 series cards, so don't expect you'll be able to get your hands on an HD 5970 anytime soon. Nonetheless, Hemlock will secure the GPU performance crown for AMD over the next couple of months.

Not bad at all, I'd like to see the temps, though.

[LiquidReactor]

There is supposedly a full speed 5870x2 coming along...

Is that going to be the surprise from ATI in Q1 2010.

HD 5970 XTX?

[Piotrsama]

Is that going to be the surprise from ATI in Q1 2010.

HD 5970 XTX?

They dropped the XTX, (XT, etc...) stuff a long time ago, why would they use it now?
5990 sounds more likely (if this is indeed the 5970)

[Farinorco]

[FUD] HD 5970 dual card spec'd

Not bad at all, I'd like to see the temps, though.

If those specs are correct, I don't know how can they say that power consumption is going to be higher than 300W. HD4870 TDP is higher than HD5850 one, and HD4870 was lower than 300W. Since HD5970 seems to be a dual Cypress GPU with HD5850 clocks, I wouldn't count with a higher than 300W TDP even with the 10% extra SPs and TMUs... of course, it could be for different reasons, and we can't know it yet, but I don't understand why they say that is "probable".

On a side note, I hadn't seen the size of the card previously (13.5" = ...34cm??!). I find it excessive. The ATX form factor is 9.6" (24.4cm) wide, and the extended ATX is 13" (33cm). I really think that videocard manufacturers should stick to ATX measures for the core of their line up, and up to E-ATX for some enthusiastic products that may need it. Nowadays, most high end videocard solutions are E-ATX (even when they don't measure the whole 13", since they surpass the ATX form factor). But surpassing the E-ATX form factor is unacceptable, in my opinion. There is no case to hold it except by chance, not even E-ATX cases (it could fit, indeed it probably will, but it doesn't have to). That's absurd, IMO.

[Xoulz]

If those specs are correct, I don't know how can they say that power consumption is going to be higher than 300W. HD4870 TDP is higher than HD5850 one, and HD4870 was lower than 300W. Since HD5970 seems to be a dual Cypress GPU with HD5850 clocks, I wouldn't count with a higher than 300W TDP even with the 10% extra SPs and TMUs... of course, it could be for different reasons, and we can't know it yet, but I don't understand why they say that is "probable".

On a side note, I hadn't seen the size of the card previously (13.5" = ...34cm??!). I find it excessive. The ATX form factor is 9.6" (24.4cm) wide, and the extended ATX is 13" (33cm). I really think that videocard manufacturers should stick to ATX measures for the core of their line up, and up to E-ATX for some enthusiastic products that may need it. Nowadays, most high end videocard solutions are E-ATX (even when they don't measure the whole 13", since they surpass the ATX form factor). But surpassing the E-ATX form factor is unacceptable, in my opinion. There is no case to hold it except by chance, not even E-ATX cases (it could fit, indeed it probably will, but it doesn't have to). That's absurd, IMO.

I pondered the same question a few weeks back. We can't they just make video card TALLER ..?

[lee63]

will this be released by christmas?

19th of this month ...I think.

[blob]

If those specs are correct, I don't know how can they say that power consumption is going to be higher than 300W. HD4870 TDP is higher than HD5850 one, and HD4870 was lower than 300W. Since HD5970 seems to be a dual Cypress GPU with HD5850 clocks, I wouldn't count with a higher than 300W TDP even with the 10% extra SPs and TMUs... of course, it could be for different reasons, and we can't know it yet, but I don't understand why they say that is "probable".

On a side note, I hadn't seen the size of the card previously (13.5" = ...34cm??!). I find it excessive. The ATX form factor is 9.6" (24.4cm) wide, and the extended ATX is 13" (33cm). I really think that videocard manufacturers should stick to ATX measures for the core of their line up, and up to E-ATX for some enthusiastic products that may need it. Nowadays, most high end videocard solutions are E-ATX (even when they don't measure the whole 13", since they surpass the ATX form factor). But surpassing the E-ATX form factor is unacceptable, in my opinion. There is no case to hold it except by chance, not even E-ATX cases (it could fit, indeed it probably will, but it doesn't have to). That's absurd, IMO.

Remeber it's FUD


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[Hornet331]

If its that long, even my TJ09 will have a hard time to fit that card :p

[Sadasius]

Taller card would have much more preferable considering the amount of lever pressure this is going to cause without support. Imagine a full face copper water block with water to add weight. Most cases can accommodate an extra half inch or more on the top of the card instead of making it so damn long.