The official GT300/Fermi Thread

[Chumbucket843]

I wonder if this is actually one of the reasons why Fermi is being late... because ATI engineers have a ton more experience with tessellation, and it's the biggest change from DX10.

its late because of yield issues. it taped out a while ago.

[Xoulz]

I wonder if this is actually one of the reasons why Fermi is being late... because ATI engineers have a ton more experience with tessellation, and it's the biggest change from DX10.

I brought that up a while ago. ATI was already DX10.1 compliant and had less of an upgrade path to reach dx11, than Nvidia.

[N19h7m4r3]

I really hope Nvidia's card isn't too expensive.
A good price/performance ratio is really needed.

[Helloworld_98]

I really hope Nvidia's card isn't too expensive.
A good price/performance ratio is really needed.

well if you find 500-550 US$ to expensive then no fermi for you.

[Solus Corvus]

I really hope Nvidia's card isn't too expensive.
A good price/performance ratio is really needed.

Well it will probably have a good price/performance ratio. High performance for a high price.

[Sn0wm@n]

the fermi 500 edition

500watts
500$
500 years before its out to public


nvidia make it happen pr wise LOL

[N19h7m4r3]

well if you find 500-550 US$ to expensive then no fermi for you.

That's still alright. But I'll probably see it for 550 Euro closer to 600 over here

[Sn0wm@n]

or wait for the super duper heater dual gpu version and save on heating cost????

[LordEC911]

I wonder if this is actually one of the reasons why Fermi is being late... because ATI engineers have a ton more experience with tessellation, and it's the biggest change from DX10.

Nvidia actually picked up one or two BIG names in regards to tessellation.
We will have to wait and see if it was worth it...

its late because of yield issues. it taped out a while ago.

When is "awhile ago?"

[cx-ray]

I don't know whether this has been posted before? From what it looks like tessellation is quite demanding:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...arks/Practice/

Personally, I was hoping for an almost free lunch on the new hardware.

[BeyondSciFi]

I don't know whether this has been posted before? From what it looks like tessellation is quite demanding:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...arks/Practice/

Personally, I was hoping for an almost free lunch on the new hardware.

I thought that at least some performance loss was to be obviously expected when tessellation was used. If you really think about it, 30-40% performance loss is quite minimal considering that the amount of polygons goes up well over 30 times.

[Chumbucket843]

I thought that at least some performance loss was to be obviously expected when tessellation was used. If you really think about it, 30-40% performance loss is quite minimal considering that the amount of polygons goes up well over 30 times.

MS said 20% faster with tessellation along with some other benefits like reduced vram utilization. i am sure the 5870 is maxing it out w/o tessellation because i can too. this bench is really pushing the shaders when TS is enabled.

[Luka_Aveiro]

at least with rocks on the ground I believe CE2 did a very good job with Parallax Occlusion Mapping, quite a good final effect and performance hint was negligible.

[takamishanoku]

Yup Crysis did a great job (very pretty game still need to finish it though)

Pics from my comp

[saaya]

tesselation in unigine looks way better than occlusion mapping imo, and yeah its too bad that the amount of added polygons cant be adjusted...
would be cool to have a slider for it so you can basically adjust the level of geometry detail! that would be sweet!

[zalbard]

tesselation in unigine looks way better than occlusion mapping imo

Did you have any doubts?

[Luka_Aveiro]

nobody said it didn't look better, it does, I just stated that POM did a good job with small performance hit.

[zalbard]

nobody said it didn't look better, it does, I just stated that POM did a good job with small performance hit.

Not taking anything away from CryEngine 2, man! It is great for sure. Just wish it supported multicore, glad they fixed it in CE3.

[Helloworld_98]

Yup Crysis did a great job (very pretty game still need to finish it though)

Pics from my comp

Get the Real lifesis 2 mod when it comes out, to be honest except for pixelation on the edge of vegetation, it's very close to reality.

[zalbard]

Get the Real lifesis 2 mod when it comes out, to be honest except for pixelation on the edge of vegetation, it's very close to reality.

Real Lifesis 1 appeared to look worse than on most screenshots, though.
People complained about excessive blur, too. Well, will see what RL2 has to offer!

[Helloworld_98]

Real Lifesis 1 appeared to look worse than on most screenshots, though.
People complained about excessive blur, too. Well, will see what RL2 has to offer!

http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?thr...tuser=0&page=8

those are the latest pics of RL2 on that page, make your mind up if you think it looks better or not :P

[zalbard]

http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?thr...tuser=0&page=8

those are the latest pics of RL2 on that page, make your mind up if you think it looks better or not :P

Thanks mate, I'll check it out!
Edit: looking good, sir! Will keep the track of it!

[orangekiwii]

That looks incredible. Hopefully 5870x2 or Fermi can run it at great framerates at 1920x1200. 5870 is almost there gtx295 is even closer but I'm looking for a little bit more. I really want minimum framerates to never drop below thirty.

[Dezmen]

Damn guys still no news about Fermi?

[Helloworld_98]

That looks incredible. Hopefully 5870x2 or Fermi can run it at great framerates at 1920x1200. 5870 is almost there gtx295 is even closer but I'm looking for a little bit more. I really want minimum framerates to never drop below thirty.

Hawkeye | Puppy will probably getting running at a nice fps even at 1920x1200 and 4xAA on even a GTX 285 is Real Lifesis is anything to go by.