P55-UD6 socket burn - Page 9

Buckeye · 10-13-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by quake6

I hope you don't mind, but hipro are you retired?

I didn't saw any new benches from you and I really like your stuff

Last I heard there was this padded room he was locked away in, something about soft walls so he doesn't hurt himself

saaya · 10-13-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by raju

What have you measured? Nothing I suspect

chillax dude...
illl get a clamp, alright alright... until then, take it easy will ya :P

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Originally Posted by bingo13

I usually pop boards faster than Kirstie Alley can down a gallon of ice cream but I have over 800 hours on each of those boards without a problem. 400 hours of that is full load overclocks in a case with only the power supply providing airflow exhaust.

So, either he had some really bad luck or something else is going on. Granted I have kept my voltages under 1.4 real with air cooling, but not a single hiccup yet. That said they are all back in cases right now for another round of testing.

To top it off, my burnt pad problem (it happens on air too) has only occurred on the top end boards so far.

LOL

hmmmm do you know thomas?
i talked to him a few times via email when i worked for foxconn...
he seemed like a really nice guy, im sure hed share more details with you if youd ask him.
so your not seeing any of the problems at all?
you can bump up vcore on the msi board to 1.4v+ and its fine?
maybe hes testing with an es chip and it pulls more current than retail chips?
or faulty psu?

burned pads.sockets only happens on top boards?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
so maybe it does have to do with droop...

raju · 10-14-2009, 09:44 PM

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3661

Dahmer · 10-15-2009, 02:17 AM

So which boards don't use the foxconn socket? I have no idea where to look for info like that so hoping someone here knows

raju?

raju · 10-15-2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahmer

So which boards don't use the foxconn socket? I have no idea where to look for info like that so hoping someone here knows

raju?

I don't have full model specifics because every vendor seems to have some boards in the channel with Foxconn sockets.

So far, DFI have dropped Foxconn on 1156 until further notice. But there are some boards out there from early batches using Foxconn.

EVGA are using a mixture of TYCO AMP, LOTES and Foxconn. I was told future batches will focus on using TYCO AMP and LOTES.

ASUS, so far I have only seen Foxconn from them (not heard anything back at all)

Gigabyte, they are using Foxconn too.

MSI have some boards which use LOTES sockets, from budget to GD80.

It's a little hit and miss all round at present.

I should add though that not everyone has issues. It's a case of checking that most pins touch if you have a Foxconn socket. Just a bit dissapointing that there can be a significant amount of unconnected/poor contact pins.

later
Raja

saaya · 10-15-2009, 02:51 AM

the problem is that foxconn is making tons of them and other socket makers seem to only make low volume...
i think most boards are foxconn and then some are mixed, sometimes foxconn sometimes others... only evga uses lotes only... maybe dfi as well idk..

EDIT: nvm, read rajas post above

marmott · 10-15-2009, 02:52 AM

I have 3 MSI P55 : 2 GD80 with Lotes socket and 1 GD65 with Foxconn socket.

saaya · 10-15-2009, 02:56 AM

huh? no credit to xs or the people who brought it up in the anandtech article? why?

Dahmer · 10-15-2009, 03:00 AM

Just checked all the pictures of the P55 boards on evga site and if I can trust those half of them show foxconn

P55 LE, P55 Micro, P55 FTW clearly show foxconn on the piece of plastic in the socket or on the backplate, other ones I'm not sure of...hope they get revisions out soon

jmke · 10-15-2009, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by saaya

huh? no credit to xs or the people who brought it up in the anandtech article? why?

check the pics on Anand, compare to this post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=37
check username: raju
check name author at Anand: Rajinder Gill

1+1 ?

saaya · 10-15-2009, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jmke

check the pics on Anand, compare to this post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=37
check username: raju
check name author at Anand: Rajinder Gill

1+1 ?

i know that raju=rajinder gill

i thought he was insipred by this thread so i was surprised he didnt mention sf3d, massman or xs... whats the big deal, geez...

jmke · 10-15-2009, 05:59 AM

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whats the big deal, geez...

you made it a deal

duh.

Mav451 · 10-15-2009, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahmer

Just checked all the pictures of the P55 boards on evga site and if I can trust those half of them show foxconn

P55 LE, P55 Micro, P55 FTW clearly show foxconn on the piece of plastic in the socket or on the backplate, other ones I'm not sure of...hope they get revisions out soon

So what happens to current users of Foxconn-socket boards then? Don't we have a Gigabyte rep on this board? I haven't touched the voltages at all on my board, so hopefully I don't see anything when i check this weekend...but is there any hope for RMA/replacement (as a preventative measure)?

kiwi · 10-15-2009, 06:21 AM

Mav451, read all thread

This happens only at high loads. Something like ~4.5GHz+ and 1.35V+ with a load of linx or similar.

Any reports of dead Asus boards?

massman · 10-15-2009, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jmke

check the pics on Anand, compare to this post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=37
check username: raju
check name author at Anand: Rajinder Gill

1+1 ?

It's always nice to get mentioned for whatever you did to help out, be it investigate research or just bringing up the issue. If no one would share findings, there wouldn't be so much to discuss.

That being said, I think Raja's the one who did all the research, so I have no problem with him not mentioning anyone. The article is more than just the 'heads-up', it's sort of an explanation as well.

raju · 10-15-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by massman

It's always nice to get mentioned for whatever you did to help out, be it investigate research or just bringing up the issue. If no one would share findings, there wouldn't be so much to discuss.

That being said, I think Raja's the one who did all the research, so I have no problem with him not mentioning anyone. The article is more than just the 'heads-up', it's sort of an explanation as well.

I was going to ask for you permission to post up some pics. I can possibly add them into the engine and give thanks where needed. I only really pursued this becasue I got caught out twice in rapid succession with the burn (the second time was just plain nasty and on the best CPU I had potentially screwing any future results) and then a close friend on the same weekend. Had no choice to investigate because it delayed the article badly (still not done).

Had I used any direct information I would have given direct thanks all round for the input.

I'll be sure to contact next time if I use anything directly.

raju · 10-15-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwi

Mav451, read all thread

This happens only at high loads. Something like ~4.5GHz+ and 1.35V+ with a load of linx or similar.

Any reports of dead Asus boards?

Yes, two Max III ROGs (one is mine). The second board was worse - only ran 32m at 5G's, power draw was not even that high, but cause of so little pin contact the pins that were making contact got screwed.

chispy · 10-15-2009, 09:05 AM

Yikes P55

, never had one never will buy one

TheKarmakazi · 10-15-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chispy

Yikes P55

, never had one never will buy one

My thought exactly. I just posted earlier today @ techreaction... P55 is like the handicapped redheaded stepchild of bloomfield...

Nelly · 10-15-2009, 10:19 AM

H'mm just checked my Biostar TPower I55 - Foxconn on mine.

Whats the chances of Foxconn getting totally anally sued over this for liable damages? I hope they get screwed seriously.

TheKarmakazi · 10-15-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nelly

H'mm just checked my Biostar TPower I55 - Foxconn on mine.

Whats the chances of Foxconn getting totally anally sued over this for liable damages? I hope they get screwed seriously.

Why? This would never happen to anyone unless they were voiding their warranty and pushing excessive voltages and clocks into the processor

KURTZ · 10-15-2009, 10:33 AM

eVGA P55 FTW here with LOTES!!!!!!!!!!

Mav451 · 10-15-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KURTZ

eVGA P55 FTW here with LOTES!!!!!!!!!!

Hah nice. Did you check the pin markings anyway, or did u just take the side off your case?

KURTZ · 10-15-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav451

Hah nice. Did you check the pin markings anyway, or did u just take the side off your case?

just checked the side off mate

Nelly · 10-15-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi

Why? This would never happen to anyone unless they were voiding their warranty and pushing excessive voltages and clocks into the processor

Ahh thats alright then I'm not one of those people.