16.235s SuperPi 1m Phenom II 955

[Zeus]

Gratz Slappa! About time mate. I can't compete with ya now, sold the AMD stuff.

[Darknight]

my 14,789s (dice)



HT was up to 2.7 and NB to 3.5, but no tested

[Riska]

Here is mine it was done with a quick run non tweaked win7 and lots of things running

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=906793

[FlanK3r]

but with AIR, Slappas run is maybe the best (or Chews? )

[Cele303]

now sub 16 with 4250mhz

great 550 overclock with air

Same here only 550 with 4 cores enabled on water cooling
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=766225

[chew*]

How about a sub 16's 32m on air Beat up vista, not my PI setup, no tweaks.

[Cele303]

Been putting the screws to a new set of 2x2g ram........No 1m becasue that won't tell me much stability wise....

A little tweaking at the same speed goes a looooooooonnngg way.



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How about a sub 16's 32m on air Beat up vista, not my PI setup, no tweaks.

Hi chew, I have a question for you if you are willing to answer because I see that you like to help people alot... And thanks in advance! First, sorry for my english, it's not my native language but I hope you will understand my post...

In first very big post (middle pics are cut because of very big quote) you are showing how memory tweaks are helping to achieve better super pi results with Phenom II 955, in last post you are showing much better score with Phenom II 965 with very low differences in used frequencies, cpu freq +58mhz, nb freq +147mhz, ram +31mhz with the same timings, only big difference that counts is much bigger htt with 965 ( I personally like bigger htt ) and Asus instead of Gigabyte... So the question is what is the reason for so much better score (~33s) with 965, htt or different motherboard with different options in bios setup or something else like tweaks or something?


For first post with 955 results I must say that these results are not so impressive if you look them like 24/7 kind of guy that looks for best price/performance ratio with some pleasure of overclocking inside that ratio Hardware used is very expensive, the best mbo from Gigabyte, 955, Corsair Dominator gt (?) ram, second setup with the best mbo from Asus, the best cpu from AMD, the same expensive memory (?)... Take a look at this hardware and result, looking at prices in my country 3 times cheaper cpu Athlon II 250 than Phenom II 955 or 965, 3 times cheaper Gigabyte 770T-UD3P than 790FXT-UD5P or Crosshair III, 2 times cheaper Kingston ram than Corsair ram with the same amount of them... No L3, slower ram frequency and timings, in 24/7 these frequencies no one use, so for the pleasure of overclocking and benchmarking with casual air or water, nothing extreme, this setup is much more better, almost the same performance for overall 3 times less money invested... Setups like yours needs to be shown at extreme conditions to see them in all their glory with every tweak out there

[chew*]

The motherboard is just that good in 32m...however it's awsome 32m results has a price. It seems slow in cinebench and a few other benches......there is no perfect board, only perfect boards per application.

[Titan7171]

The motherboard is just that good in 32m...however it's awsome 32m results has a price. It seems slow in cinebench and a few other benches......there is no perfect board, only perfect boards per application.

so was that ac cooled air or ambiant air? I saw you using a cardboard box over your setup with an ac in another thread.

Which you found funny in my thread about my cooling 965 using the ac yet there you are doing the same

[chew*]

so was that ac cooled air or ambiant air? I saw you using a cardboard box over your setup with an ac in another thread.

Which you found funny in my thread about my cooling 965 using the ac yet there you are doing the same

I used an AC tossed on a bucket for a Competition yes to cool video cards and was 100% open about it......

If you honestly think I would go that far for a basic untweaked vista 32m run you would sadly be mistaken.........Why bother when I have an arsenal of cooling at my disposal that is far easier and far less hassle..........

My results all scale linear......my air results are slower than my water which is quite a bit slower than my -20 phase.......

Maybe if you tried finding your good core you would be able to run 32m fast on 72F ambients.

Assumption is the mother of all screwups.

FWIW sanyo denki and megahalems lapped + 72F ambients go a long way on a chip that was binned out of 6 chips.

[Titan7171]

I used an AC tossed on a bucket for a Competition yes to cool video cards and was 100% open about it......

If you honestly think I would go that far for a basic untweaked vista 32m run you would sadly be mistaken.........Why bother when I have an arsenal of cooling at my disposal that is far easier and far less hassle..........

My results all scale linear......my air results are slower than my water which is slower than -20 phase.......

Maybe if you tried finding your good core you would be able to run 32m fast on 72F ambients.

whoa getting a little testy there........all that because I asked if you used the ac? sorry if you dont like being questioned lol.

Turning on an ac is going that far? you throw the box on top press a button and shazam......air cooled, what an ego......to good for ac lol.

I didnt say anything about your results being linear.......but its good you keep track when showing your results

So if your ambiant is 72F what did the cpu temp go to.........had to go into the high the 100's with 1.52v on just air. Did you use lots of fans like those big ones you had over the graphics cards?

Who said I didnt find my good core?

Hmm best out of 6 cpu's thats a nice one.......is it the best of the bunch?

[chew*]

I sold all the other chips......that should answer your question. AOD is not installed nor do I use it......its a nice application that is user friendly but I do all my handiwork in bios.....temps I don't care......32m does not have any real impact on temps anyway.

Its just as easy to slap the head of my mach 1 phase change on as well as my waterblock on benchstation 2.........and the results are far better.....

Like I said why bother

Air results don't interest me.........they interest you guys which is why i do them........There is no such thing as an air WR.......there are Just WR's period.

Speaking of WR's time to bench more ln2.....

[Titan7171]

well thanks for letting us be in your presence

[chew*]

well thanks for letting us be in your presence

Heh that remark is really uncalled for, I'm just here to help.

[ridney]

break it guys! here's mine, not efficient yes but i don't mind

[chew*]

Damn fine win 7 run ridney.

[Slappa]

break it guys! here's mine, not efficient yes but i don't mind

Already done on the last page :P

However, I am just fooling as that would not be comparing apples to apples. I give you credit for achieving such a great time using a tri-core as they are slightly slower in 1M. Not to mention you are on win 7 as well.

Excellent Job

What type of cooling may I ask? Just normal air? On my run I had to use cold ass winter air. My chip just can't pull the same numbers on standard ambients.

[ridney]

Already done on the last page :P

However, I am just fooling as that would not be comparing apples to apples. I give you credit for achieving such a great time using a tri-core as they are slightly slower in 1M. Not to mention you are on win 7 as well.

Excellent Job

What type of cooling may I ask? Just normal air? On my run I had to use cold ass winter air. My chip just can't pull the same numbers on standard ambients.

nah, i was trying to break chew and titan from their conversation here hehe not that i was asking someone to break my time but thanks anyways

we don't have winter in singapore so it is definitely not cold air. i used a pack of ice cubes and a cooler to cool the chip using an apogee drive pump/block, pic on my avatar it was a fun two hour bench session

[chew*]

nah, i was trying to break chew and titan from their conversation here hehe not that i was asking someone to break my time but thanks anyways

we don't have winter in singapore so it is definitely not cold air. i used a pack of ice cubes and a cooler to cool the chip using an apogee drive pump/block, pic on my avatar it was a fun two hour bench session

Ehhh i'ts no biggie, I think Titan just doesn't realize that he does what he does out of necessity.....

I already have better tools for the job so I see no sense or need to do things the hard way or ineffecient way.

[FlanK3r]

How about a sub 16's 32m on air Beat up vista, not my PI setup, no tweaks.

lol, not tweaking and so good score . I have not chance with DDR2 and classic AIR, but il try it today.
We can try again later-Q2 2010 :-), il have new CPU+new motherboard for testing (Phenom III (one quad and one sixcore)+ AMD890FX)

[Titan7171]

Heh that remark is really uncalled for, I'm just here to help.

Actually you a little nasty with responses, you going to get it right back.

Ehhh i'ts no biggie, I think Titan just doesn't realize that he does what he does out of necessity.....

I already have better tools for the job so I see no sense or need to do things the hard way or ineffecient way.

We dont do this out of necessity we do it for fun.We not trying for WR so to downplay people running air and saying you dont care about how they do things is really being a little nasty towards all running air and water.

Theres nothing hard about running on air or switching on an ac or using chilled water.

[chew*]

Actually you a little nasty with responses, you going to get it right back.



We dont do this out of necessity we do it for fun.We not trying for WR so to downplay people running air and saying you dont care about how they do things is really being a little nasty towards all running air and water.

Theres nothing hard about running on air or switching on an ac or using chilled water.

You seriously need to buy a small quiet single stage phase change and use it. Only then will you see where I am coming from.

If your trying to maxximize your clock you should grab a diff board as well versus the current one your on that needs a huge amount of voltage just to compensate for its droop/poor voltage regulation.....

You will find then that you don't and won't run near as hot nor will you need as much voltage.

I don't downplay anyones results nor have I ever.

Try grabbing one of these fans, lapping your xigamatek with 800 grit wetsand ( higher grit makes it perform worse ) and tape the sides.....It will be alot more effecient. Its a very quiet fan for its CFM. Quite tolerable.

In light load apps it will beat the TRUE 120 lapped with same fan. Haven't tested it versus megahalems in light load yet but megahalems with same fan and lapped seems to be winning in load apps.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/12x38sadesan.html

[FlanK3r]

Im back:
and..i have new record 1M for me 16.297s, think with lower ambients at winter i got run about 4240 MHz and about 16.1s



17m 28s ... :-(((




temps:





And 32M (so far from DDR3 runs :-/ )

[chew*]

Nice runs.

I wouldn't worry to much about 32m.

Giga is just not that effecient at it.

That asus crosshair seems to be very good at it plus it seems to OC my chip about 50-60 mhz more with the same voltage although NB clocking is a tad strained, a newer bios might fix that.

On the other hand its not gonna win any cinebench battles, Giga really shines there.

[tiborrr]

I'm back to my M4A78T-E for benching purposes, sold the MSI 790FX-GD70.

I have soldered some SMD caps to the back of the socket, I hope it improves stability under cold and buys me another 50-100MHz.


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