If they bundle that helmet then I'm sold.
If they bundle that helmet then I'm sold.
Donate to XS forumsOriginally Posted by jayhall0315
If that graph turns out to be true..... that would be pretty great at $160 imho.
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he was attempting to get maximum theoretical rates in his benchmark.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...re-analysis/12
the larrabee whitepaper also talks about this in the fixed function section.
http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~dbrooks...e_manycore.pdf
I understand that but it also shows that it is not necessarily bandwidth limited.
Where in those sources does it show/say that texture filtering is "bottlenecked by bandwidth?"
Only reason that GTX285 is performing "better" is because it is doing less work and produces a lesser quality of AF.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
its obvious that the quality is higher in rv870. i would expect fermi to have higher quality than the older nv algorithms. they have been using the same one since g80. its also BS that review sites bump up AA and res and make it look like a card is more powerful. there is a reason we use adaptive AF rather than .
the larrabee paper said that interpolation done through software is slower but the difference is negligible. calculation is not the bottleneck.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=55241
Correct, interpolation done through the shaders is slower but it also allows more than enough data to be fed to the TMUs to keep them at near peak performance, when needed. Compared to the 32 interpolators in RV770, RV870's peak theoretical interpolation is much higher.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
Even still, the 5770 is really designed to be played at 1680x1050 resolutions and lower.In this AMD slide about HD5770 performance, it doesn't seem to take a huge impact by using 8xMSAA and 16xAF @1920x1200 (at least compared to 4xMSAA and 8xAF configurations)...
Note that they aren't comparing against any other card, it's a framerate measurement. The baseline is 30fps.
It seems like a pretty good performance @1920x1200 for a value card of 160$, but it's difficult to compare without other cards results.
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2x5770 would be same as 1x 5870 !!!!!!!!
it seems the core is the same 4890 ,more than 800sp would have been better.........................
NO! We are saying that given the choice, you can choose the same level of performance, but gain DX11 and effeciency..! Thus, to many, the 5770 is a BETTER choice than the 4870... ATi think so too, thats why it's one series higher!
Last edited by Xoulz; 10-09-2009 at 10:37 PM.
Okay so I am reaaaaaallly getting confused on this card by the reviews I'm reading. In some reviews the 5770 can't beat a GTS 250 in others its comparable to a 4890. Can someone tell me wtf is right?
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Without seeing too many benchmarks, it seems to be similar to a 4870, give or take ~10% depending on the benchmark, so slightly less than a 4890 at times but above the 4850.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
alright thx, so essentially it will be the mid range price point card for ATI w/DX11? I hope they intend on getting rid of the 4870's so they aren't trying to sell a bazillion cards at a time. Like another company I can think of. If this card is $160 seems pretty reasonable for this. But what will be replacing the 4890? Or will this be replacing the $180-200 spot, I just find it odd if it isn't as fast. The 4890 is a great card after all.
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The 5770 is going to be ~$160 at launch.
RV770/790 is already EOL, they are still working on clearing inventory.
As far as replacing the 4890, there are a couple different schools of thought.
One is to just overclock the 5770 to around 950mhz and just let that fill the gap, others are thinking that if they could use a lower binned Cypress, either a really slow 1440SP chip or maybe a 1120SP chip w/ decent clocks would fit in pretty well as a 5830. The last possibility is that they left some room for the 5850/5870 to drop once GF100 is released.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
Ah, so it might be like how the 4890 is like the dirt cheap ones at stock then paying a premium for the higher clocked ones? When is the GF100 coming out? I wouldn't mind a 5850 for $180 hehehehe
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The 5850 will be $199 all threw the Xmas holiday shopping season, most likely..
I forget is it after xmas that vid cards then shoot back up or drop?
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HD5770 benchmarked
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=98
Yeah ive read over this whole thread and am a bit confused myself tbh. so the 5770 is basically the 4870 in disguise? like performance wise?? if so then why not get a 4870? any rumor on a 5770X2? these seem like great performers for the price but is there a reason why theres not many benches with them yet?
I don't think the 5770x2 rumor has any validity since the two 5770s would be the exact same thing as one 5870 and their prices would probably be the same.
AMD really has a complete portfolio for their videocards, but that 5750 cooler is ugly as sin, is a dual slot and dumps heat back into the case.
4870 doesn't have DX11, nor a ~110w TDP.
NDA doesn't expire until the 13th of October.
Not sure why everyone dislikes stock coolers that don't exhaust out. When ATi has a card that exhausts out the back people complain about the noise, when they have a good performing cooler that is quiet, people complain about the looks and the "heat dump."
Most of us here are going to replace the stock cooler anyway and the highest performing aftermarket coolers do not exhaust out the back anyways...
Last edited by LordEC911; 10-10-2009 at 09:22 PM.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
Sapphire HD 5770 in stock
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...namitedata.com
Just in case someone somehow misses it and goes off on a pricing rant, those are Canadian dollars.
Last edited by flippin_waffles; 10-11-2009 at 03:00 PM.
I can't wait to grab the 5770, I will be waiting for one to pop up to grab one asap .
Anybody have a clue as to how much availability will be at launch?
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lol NZ has stock right now, we are normally last to get
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