Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[andressergio]

I'm at work now. Maybe i'll do it later, but I afraid to disappoint zoson

damn i put my racing helmet just in case something blow and shoot 2 linxs 500at time...try it mate but use protection

[In-Fluence]

[Hoss331]

Cliff none of use and if you where to use it we use hyperpi that at least out more stress but he's telling erratics things seems his started showing no respect so we will not respect...

Oh I know, I was just curious who he thought used SPI 1M for stability runs.

[xzulu]

Sergio has proven STABLE overclocks far beyond what your nvidia board will ever do using a 45nm quad. You come to this thread being an ass and really deserve no response.

When you top these oc's on your nvidia chipset board using a c2quad please come back and post your results. Until then learn to show respect to others in this great thread.

Well said!

[andressergio]

Oh I know, I was just curious who he thought used SPI 1M for stability runs.

yes we all use it for fun no more than that

cheers hoss

[zoson]

Cliff none of use and if you where to use it we use hyperpi that at least out more stress but he's telling erratics things seems his started showing no respect so we will not respect...

That's not true. Just go back and look at everything I said. You guys were the ones getting defensive and over reacting. Not to mention I haven't said anything "erratic." If there's anything erratic, it's your terrible english causing you to misunderstand things, and your manic reactions as a result of your lack of understanding.

You can see in my first post to the thread, I pulled 550FSB 200 LinX stable Max Mem on this motherboard with a different CPU already. I came in here asking for help and all I got was flames and nobody willing to actually *prove* to me what they were saying is true. If that were the kind of welcome you were met with asking questions, what would you think? Right, that everyone in this thread is a pack of liars.

It took me basically twisting peoples arms until I finally started seeing something worthwhile. Not to mention the biggest talkers like you Sergio have yet to post anything actually relevant - other than a screenshot of you running linx at an overclock lower than mine. All you do is make fun of my overclocks and my equipment. You say I'm not respectful. Look in a mirror, hater.

Oh, and where's this SLI hack that everyone says is out there? All I find in Google when I search for it is threads about how the author disappeared, it only ran in safe mode anyway, and it was never actually released.

[Loco23]

zoson, overclock Quad it's not the same that overclock Duo. Many mobo can 550 with Duo, but the same mobo can't even 470-480 with Quad.
>500 with Quad is VERY HARD.

[deachus]

zoson, overclock Quad it's not the same that overclock Duo. Many mobo can 550 with Duo, but the same mobo can't even 470-480 with Quad.
>500 with Quad is VERY HARD.

My P5E3 Premium X48 could clock well over 525FSB on E8600 but could BARELY get 450FSB stable with my Q9450 and Q9650. Entirely different ball game when switching to QUAD.

[Alien Grey]

Oh, and where's this SLI hack that everyone says is out there? All I find in Google when I search for it is threads about how the author disappeared, it only ran in safe mode anyway, and it was never actually released.

Sometimes you have to look a little further than the Intel forum on XS.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=231383

Already proven that it works on an ASUS Rampage Formula board by Ghostleader.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...81921&page=122

[OC Nub]

This guy has:

I have NEVER posted a spi run, especially as a test for stability. I always post blend. If you had read the thread as you say, you would know this and also have seen Sergios blend runs along with those posted by the other fine people in this thread. I am still waiting to see some impressive oc's from you. Show us some blend at 4500mzh@ your 1.5+vcore, or maybe 500 passes of LinX, as that is your standard of stability.

[andressergio]

I have NEVER posted a spi run, especially as a test for stability. I always post blend. If you had read the thread as you say, you would know this and also have seen Sergios blend runs along with those posted by the other fine people in this thread. I am still waiting to see some impressive oc's from you. Show us some blend at 4500mzh@ your 1.5+vcore, or maybe 500 passes of LinX, as that is your standard of stability.

yeah i want to see that also as he stated the new standard for OC stability

500 linx passes

[Davit]

Hi fellas. Been reading this thread for a while, decided to finally join the forum, as most of you directly responsible for me dumping more money into my system lol. I am planning to switch to i7-870, but before I do I wanted to push my q9650 and ep45-dq6 as far as it can go. I got her now @ 4.4Ghz for 24/7 use, but I think my vcore is a lil high. Idling in CPU-z it shows something like 1.456...
I AM SORRY IF THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE TO POST THIS! I did search the form first and found a thread for my board, but it was mostly tech discussion there rather than oc...


Anyway got a 8hrs stable test @ 4.4Ghz with this settings. Was trying to see if it will actually go past 4.3. I think my CPU Vcore is still too high. 1.53 just makes me nervous. I think I will lower it a bit and try it again. Saw a post somewhere with my quad and same board running at 4.5 24/7 and benched at 4.9, so I know it is doable. Now I just need to work out what is holding me back. Still need to figure out reference mess. Temps look totally fine, highest it got was 56*C, but my room is at like 77*F right now...

Here're my current settings.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ..................: [FAST]
CPU Clock Ratio ..............................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.........................:
CPU Frequency ...............................: 4.40Ghz(489 x 9)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control...................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: [489]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: [100]
CIA2 - disabled

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 1000mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 100
MCH Clock Skew (ps)....................: 100


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance....................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: [AUTO]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: [2.00D]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................: [978]
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time..........................:5
tRCD ...........................................:5
tRP'.............................................: 5
tRAS............................................:1 5

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD............................................:A uto
tWTR.......................................... :Auto
tWR.............................................:A uto
tRFC............................................:A uto

tRTP...........................................:Au to
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….......1.250v*........: 1,53125V
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1,300v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1,560v
CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*.......: Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1,300v
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto


DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2,220V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabeld]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]

Like I said I am somewhat new to this... any help will be appreciate it. My final goal is 4.5 for 24/7 and try to bench her at 4.8-4.9... then I can retire this CPU

[Alien Grey]

yeah i want to see that also as he stated the new standard for OC stability

500 linx passes

Yeah right. 500 passes of LinX and then still fail Prime Blend after some time.

[andressergio]

Yeah right. 500 passes of LinX and then still fail Prime Blend after some time.

yeah mate only test for me valid is blend stress over hours is the best
i was jk about that

[zoson]

There you two go putting words into my mouth again. At no time did I say you could pass LinX and then have Prime fail.
I've maintained this whole time that LinX is by far a better stress tester than Prime. Prime can pass 24 hours while LinX still fails after a short period of time. I've seen this behavior in the last four CPU's I've owned. I'm quite convinced that people like you bash it because you can't pass it stable. Complete denial of the fact that your OC is not stable.

Now you guys are fronting like a bunch of kids. Clearly I use 200 LinX loops to test my stability, as seen in my screenshots. I asked sergio to prove his OC with 500 loops max mem. If you guys can't see that he's deflecting instead of proving, well I feel sorry for you. If he were truely stable, this conversation would have been over long ago when he posted his screenshot.

I thought XS would be a haven for people who were serious about overclocking, but instead I find another forum full of fanboys defending their false champions.

[OC Nub]

There you two go putting words into my mouth again. At no time did I say you could pass LinX and then have Prime fail.
I've maintained this whole time that LinX is by far a better stress tester than Prime. Prime can pass 24 hours while LinX still fails after a short period of time. I've seen this behavior in the last four CPU's I've owned. I'm quite convinced that people like you bash it because you can't pass it stable. Complete denial of the fact that your OC is not stable.

Now you guys are fronting like a bunch of kids. Clearly I use 200 LinX loops to test my stability, as seen in my screenshots. I asked sergio to prove his OC with 500 loops max mem. If you guys can't see that he's deflecting instead of proving, well I feel sorry for you. If he were truely stable, this conversation would have been over long ago when he posted his screenshot.

I thought XS would be a haven for people who were serious about overclocking, but instead I find another forum full of fanboys defending their false champions.

You have very little experience with a c2q it seems. Using LinX, my cpu require less vcore to pass than when testing with blend. This was not the case with my e8400. If you go back a few pages and read you will see where several other had the same findings.

You started insulting people in your first post in this thread by stating that we use spi as a means of stability testing. You have shown no respect to the guys who have spent months oc'ing these cpu's and posting results in this thread, in return you will receive the same. You then dictate to us the definition of stability and imply that anything that differs from this is not acceptable to you (like we care). All anyone was trying to say in the beginning before you went off the deep end was that your board, however nice it may be was not designed for overclocking a c2q, that you would have better results on a more appropriate board for the job.

[andressergio]

You have very little experience with a c2q it seems. Using LinX, my cpu require less vcore to pass than when testing with blend. This was not the case with my e8400. If you go back a few pages and read you will see where several other had the same findings.

You started insulting people in your first post in this thread by stating that we use spi as a means of stability testing. You have shown no respect to the guys who have spent months oc'ing these cpu's and posting results in this thread, in return you will receive the same. You then dictate to us the definition of stability and imply that anything that differs from this is not acceptable to you (like we care). All anyone was trying to say in the beginning before you went off the deep end was that your board, however nice it may be was not designed for overclocking a c2q, that you would have better results on a more appropriate board for the job.

+10 for that

[deachus]

You have very little experience with a c2q it seems. Using LinX, my cpu require less vcore to pass than when testing with blend. This was not the case with my e8400. If you go back a few pages and read you will see where several other had the same findings.

You started insulting people in your first post in this thread by stating that we use spi as a means of stability testing. You have shown no respect to the guys who have spent months oc'ing these cpu's and posting results in this thread, in return you will receive the same. You then dictate to us the definition of stability and imply that anything that differs from this is not acceptable to you (like we care). All anyone was trying to say in the beginning before you went off the deep end was that your board, however nice it may be was not designed for overclocking a c2q, that you would have better results on a more appropriate board for the job.

Well said, my thoughts exactly

[The Viper]

You have very little experience with a c2q it seems. Using LinX, my cpu require less vcore to pass than when testing with blend. This was not the case with my e8400. If you go back a few pages and read you will see where several other had the same findings.

You started insulting people in your first post in this thread by stating that we use spi as a means of stability testing. You have shown no respect to the guys who have spent months oc'ing these cpu's and posting results in this thread, in return you will receive the same. You then dictate to us the definition of stability and imply that anything that differs from this is not acceptable to you (like we care). All anyone was trying to say in the beginning before you went off the deep end was that your board, however nice it may be was not designed for overclocking a c2q, that you would have better results on a more appropriate board for the job.

That sums it up perfectly OC Nub

[zsamz_]

first off that that 790i gonna need much more voltage than any other board
to even get that 790i to 500fsb is verry hard
but the board wont even last long before it
more than an hour of prime is way too much imho just a waste
stop sozon
when your 790i dies we know u be on a ud3X

[Zucker2k]

There you two go putting words into my mouth again. At no time did I say you could pass LinX and then have Prime fail.
I've maintained this whole time that LinX is by far a better stress tester than Prime. Prime can pass 24 hours while LinX still fails after a short period of time. I've seen this behavior in the last four CPU's I've owned. I'm quite convinced that people like you bash it because you can't pass it stable. Complete denial of the fact that your OC is not stable.

Now you guys are fronting like a bunch of kids. Clearly I use 200 LinX loops to test my stability, as seen in my screenshots. I asked sergio to prove his OC with 500 loops max mem. If you guys can't see that he's deflecting instead of proving, well I feel sorry for you. If he were truely stable, this conversation would have been over long ago when he posted his screenshot.

I thought XS would be a haven for people who were serious about overclocking, but instead I find another forum full of fanboys defending their false champions.

Right there, is where you're wrong - prime IS NOT small ftts alone. The real deal is large ftts (especially when you're running high clocks with high fsbs and ram around 1200mhz). The reverse is true - you need more juice to pass blend and large ftts than linx. Yeah that 200 passes with your DUAL CORE is nice, BUT THIS IS A QUAD THREAD; and that's why you came here for help because that same board that took your dual to 550 can hardly take a quad to 460 fsb stable! You need to listen and listen well; to play with the big boys in this thread, you'll need to discard that NV mobo and get a p45 board - hell, get a UD3x board and you can come back and thank us later.

To summarize, many here can run linx all year and fail prime blend/large ffts in five minutes, unless they add more voltage; and that's the truth.

Edit: Nub beat me to it.

[CryptiK]

Got time for a little more testing. I lapped my TRUE Cu as it was not giving good contact, which reduced max temp - this allowed me to lower vcore. Also got an hour blend done, no time for anymore until later in the week perhaps.

Linx max mem / 4203 MHz / 1.296 vcc / 1.26 Vtt / PL8 / 1.32 vNB




1 hour blend / 4203 MHz / 1.296 vcc / 1.26 Vtt / PL8 / 1.336 vNB

[andressergio]

Got time for a little more testing. I lapped my TRUE Cu as it was not giving good contact, which reduced max temp - this allowed me to lower vcore. Also got an hour blend done, no time for anymore until later in the week perhaps.

Linx max mem / 4203 MHz / 1.296 vcc / 1.26 Vtt / PL8 / 1.32 vNB




1 hour blend / 4203 MHz / 1.296 vcc / 1.26 Vtt / PL8 / 1.336 vNB

Congrats mate well done

[-n7-]

Nice work CryptiK.

I gave up on 4.2 GHz...i believe i could do it, but going from 4 to 4.2 GHz seems to require a huge jump in CPU & motherboard voltages, so i settled @ 4.1 GHz.

[andressergio]

Nice work CryptiK.

I gave up on 4.2 GHz...i believe i could do it, but going from 4 to 4.2 GHz seems to require a huge jump in CPU & motherboard voltages, so i settled @ 4.1 GHz.

you got my same batch n7 isnt yours L828A446 vid 1,1875 ?