Larrabee: A fiasco, or the future?

[saaya]

Don't judge too fast, it is an early prototype, with an early software ...
Give us time ... we are taking on people with 14 or more years experience, Paris and Rome were not build the same day ... We are working hard ... wait and see

Francois

yeah but nobody claimed to build rome in 2 years... intel DID claim theyd build lrb in 2 years... its intel that set themselves this insane timeline, nobody else... it was stupid imo, give yourself more time than you think you need and surprise everybody by getting your work done early... thats the good old star trek scotty philosophy that works great

actually intel is doing exactly this with cpus usually, conservative forcast and then outperform the expectations you set... with lrb i think everybody had strong doubts from the start it would be available in time and perform that well...

So if larrabee does fall flat, does anyone really think the future of the company is in peril? I'm not arguing, it just seems give way too much weight to this market segment.

longterm, it might not kill intel or rob them of their market leader position... but the latter is very likely if you ask me seing as cpus and gpus are on a crash course...

there are two major shifts going on, from pc to consoles, and from pcs/laptops to smartphones.
intel may have conquered the pc market, but the pc market is shrinking, its no secret...
its kinda like intel being the market leader in old school rollerskates, but everybody is getting inline skates nowadays...

how many game consoles use an intel cpu? 0...
how many game consoles are even x86 using intel technology? 0... ps3, xbox360, wii, psp, ds... all arm or powerpc...
how many smartphones use an intel cpu? 0...
how many smartphones are even x86 using intel technology? 0... iphone, blackberry, palm, nokia, sony ericsson, motorola, sharp, htc, lg, samsung anycall, etc... all arm

the pc will not die out, but its losing its importance...

thats why intel is pushing atom and lrb... atom for smartphones and netbooks and lrb for consoles and pc gaming.

while atom was a comercial success for intel, it is far from a sucessful product in customer perception...
atom is too hot for phones and pds and mids, and too weak for netbooks...
the only reason it was a sucess is because its cheap...

lrb wont have that advantage, and im starting to think itll have the same problems as atom, it wont really do great in either segment its targeted at...
but we will see...

A question... If that was a realtime demonstration using Larrabee... why they didn't show a PCB or the card? Just dismount the box and show the card...

I think that demonstration was just and simply the old Daniel Pohl's raytraced Quake War running over a 32nm xeon... and no LRB card was inside the box. Think in this: that demo is running at 20FPS aprox... more or less the same than the old QW-RT demonstrations performed. There are no new effects, antialiasing, etc... it's the same demo that Intel is showing now for 3 years.

yepp, i was wondering the same thing...
its definately very suspicious...

This is an innacurate statement, very innacurate.
Time will show

maybe, but lrb definately has needed quite some patchwork and doesnt look that healthy...

Atom out sold iPhone
Francois

how much is intel making with 1 atom and how much is apple making with 1 iphone?