** Official ** Gigabyte UD3 P45 Series -- EP45-UD3 / EP45-UD3R / EP45-UD3P

[The Viper]

Heh can some of you guys (ie. Andressergio, Jor3lBR, etc.) who have been benching your Q9650s between 4.6-4.9, post some templates for 3d benching on here for me to compare. I tried searching but most of you guys just post a screenshot of benchmark, cpuz, memset, etc.

[Gameman]

User111: definitley run memtest to make sure your settings are working right. I've gotten bad ram right from rma before.

On the subject of Ram, I noticed you have Gskills there...

Do you know if the new Ripjaw modules 4 gb kit being sold right now @ Newegg is supported...On the UD3P

Cause a friend of mine advised me to get 1200 ram / 9600...and these look like a good deal.... Yes, I definitely want 1200 maybe 1300 OC

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-283-_-Product

Or should I just assume it because it supports the others?????

PS if linking to Newegg isn't allowed just delete it - but you know the one's i'm talking about...

Sorry to bother you...

Thanks

PPs: I assume the board comes with the usual 4 Dimm SLots for a total of 16, so would you forsee any trouble trying to run 4 X2 GB DiMMS of 1200 for a Total of 8 GB ?????? OR Am I asking for automatic board failure here???

Double Thanks

[monza1412]

Sorry Guys For Question Twice
Why I Can't Reach Higher Max Frquency Ram Speed?
In Sub Timming Ram Menu "Dim Clock Skew" What's That?

How To Can Higher ???Some Important For Me?

try a lighter PL (Static tRead Value), disable DDR Write Training also and play with the Driving Strength Profile option. OC 1333 or OC 1200.

skews are small variances between signals... mostly of the time the delays help to achieve higher clocks.

good luck and watch that voltage :P

[thebluemeanie1]

Heh can some of you guys (ie. Andressergio, Jor3lBR, etc.) who have been benching your Q9650s between 4.6-4.9, post some templates for 3d benching on here for me to compare. I tried searching but most of you guys just post a screenshot of benchmark, cpuz, memset, etc.

Here are some of mine.

Robust Graphics Booster - FAST
CPU Clock Ratio - 9X
CPU Host Frequency - 545 or 556
PCI Express Frquency - 100 Going higher seems to help a little.
C.I.A.2 - Disabled
CPU Clock Drive - 1000mV
PCI Express Clock Drive 1000mV
Clock skews are all set to 0PS.

****DRAM Performance Control****
Performance Enhance - Standard
Extreme Memory Profile - Disabled
(G) MCH Frequency Latch - 400MHz
System Memory Multiplier - 2.00
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual
>>>Sandard Timing Control<<<
CAS Latency Time - 6
tRCD - 6
tRP - 6
tRAS - 18
>>>Advanced Timing Control<<<
tRRD - 15
tWTR - 15
tWR - 31
tRFC - 255
tRTP - 15
Command Rate - 3
>>>>Channel A Timing Settings
Static tRead Value - 15
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel A Driving Settings
Driving Strength Profile - OC-1200
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel B Timing Settings
Same as Chanel A.
>>>>Channel B Driving Settings
Same as Channel A.

****Motherboard Voltage Control****
>>>>CPU
Load Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Vcore - 1.60000V
CPU Termination - 1.660V
CPU PLL - 1.810V
CPU Reference - 1.036V
>>>>MCH/ICH
MCH Core - 1.660V
MCH Reference - 1.051V
MCH/DRAM Refence - 0.920
ICH I/O - 1.750V
ICH Core - 1.300V
>>>DRAM
DRAM Voltage - 2.100V
DRAM Termination - 1.050V
Channel A Reference - 1.050V
Channel B Reference - 1.050V

CPU Features are all Disabled.

The memory timings are just set for maximum stability but will go much lower.

CPU Clock Drive - 1000mV
PCI Express Clock Drive -1000mV

****DRAM Performance Control****
Performance Enhance - Standard
Extreme Memory Profile - Disabled
(G) MCH Frequency Latch - 400MHz
System Memory Multiplier - 2.00
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual

>>>Advanced Timing Control<<<
All set manually to Defaults
>>>>Channel A Timing Settings
Static tRead Value - 11 or 12 going higher can help out a lot.
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel A Driving Settings
Driving Strength Profile - OC-1200
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel B Timing Settings
Same as Chanel A.
>>>>Channel B Driving Settings
Same as Channel A.

****Motherboard Voltage Control****
>>>>CPU
Load Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Vcore - 1550000V
CPU Termination - 1.460V
CPU PLL - 1.610V
CPU Reference - 0.924V
>>>>MCH/ICH
MCH Core - 1.600V
MCH Reference - .964V
MCH/DRAM Refence - 1.100V  It doesn't seem to matter much
ICH I/O - 1.650V
ICH Core - 1.200V
>>>DRAM
DRAM Voltage - 2.100V
DRAM Termination - 1.050V
Channel A Reference - 1.050V
Channel B Reference - 1.050V

The bottom one will do around 4.85Ghz at static tREAD 10.

[nkresho]

On the subject of Ram, I noticed you have Gskills there...

Do you know if the new Ripjaw modules 4 gb kit being sold right now @ Newegg is supported...On the UD3P

Cause a friend of mine advised me to get 1200 ram / 9600...and these look like a good deal.... Yes, I definitely want 1200 maybe 1300 OC

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-283-_-Product

Or should I just assume it because it supports the others?????

PS if linking to Newegg isn't allowed just delete it - but you know the one's i'm talking about...

Sorry to bother you...

Thanks

PPs: I assume the board comes with the usual 4 Dimm SLots for a total of 16, so would you forsee any trouble trying to run 4 X2 GB DiMMS of 1200 for a Total of 8 GB ?????? OR Am I asking for automatic board failure here???

Double Thanks

I haven't seen the ripjaws on this board yet. I and a few of the others here have the gskill pi 9600's and have had great luck with them. $150 a set isn't great price wise, but they clock very well and take volatge without dying like the elpida chipped low voltage ones (gskill tridents & ocz blades).


You're definitely allowed to newegg link, so np there.

In fact... these are what I and a few others are running. Totally worth the $$$ IMO.

And don't be sorry about bothering. LOL, that's why I check these forums. To try to help. well and to brag sometimes too.

Ocnub ran 8gb on the ud3p IIRC. Not sure how well it was able to oc though, as compared to 2x2gb.

HTH

[The Viper]

thanks alot thebluemeanie! Those are some of the slackest RAM timings ive ever seen. Your NB, r u using any specific cooling to keeps temps down at 1.6V MCH?

[thebluemeanie1]

thanks alot thebluemeanie! Those are some of the slackest RAM timings ive ever seen. Your NB, r u using any specific cooling to keeps temps down at 1.6V MCH?

I have an Antec spotcool wedged under it. You can kind of see it in this picture. http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/n...t=DSC_0157.jpg The air flow isn't great but helps a little.

[Hoss331]

Pull the blue cover plate off the nb hs.

[Gameman]

$150 a set isn't great price wise, but they clock very well and take volatge without dying like the elpida chipped low voltage ones (gskill tridents & ocz blades).

so you're saying the Tridents which are on the same Newegg.ca and .com kept dying??

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-271-_-Product

Jeez... Thanks for the warning...

The ripjaws look like low voltage too..

the fact that they're half price probably means half the quality....

I'll have to get me those PI ones you recommended....

[andressergio]

Heh can some of you guys (ie. Andressergio, Jor3lBR, etc.) who have been benching your Q9650s between 4.6-4.9, post some templates for 3d benching on here for me to compare. I tried searching but most of you guys just post a screenshot of benchmark, cpuz, memset, etc.

Yes mate i can bench 3DM06 till 4707+ then temps are an issue...i will send you a template im using PL8 with mem at 1255, but for 4815 i went up on PL like 13...but still CL5 its a matter of MCH high (i have to use 1,7+, and vdimm till 2,4) i also have an antec spot cooler with the plate over it i like it that way lol, but mem and mch are cool, of course i know it may be better to take it off.

Cheers
Sergio

[Don_Dan]

$150 a set isn't great price wise, but they clock very well and take volatge without dying like the elpida chipped low voltage ones (gskill tridents & ocz blades).

Where did you read that? I haven't come across a single dead OCZ LV module.

[Gameman]

Where did you read that? I haven't come across a single dead OCZ LV module.

uh-oh....

hope I didn't start something

PPS:

Originally Posted by nkresho View Post
$150 a set isn't great price wise, but they clock very well and take volatge without dying like the elpida chipped low voltage ones (gskill tridents & ocz blades).

are we talking like 2.10, or 2.20 or even 2.30 PLUS here???

Cause I have Viper 800 and give it 2.30 (2.27 in CPUID) - but on the sticks it says 2.20 and no problem so far...

Or are we talking much lower here before it dies????

or should I say SERIOUS OC'ing like 2.35-2.40, 2.45????

Cause if I went with the ripjaws or the PI ones I was kinda hoping for 1300MHZ OC since the Team Extreem ones are nowhere to be found these days... (you know: at least as a minimum)

[paul_]

The only phrase I have for this is incredibly helpful. I booted at 4.8, booted into windows at 4.55 (crappy RAM). Awesome, thanks!

Here are some of mine.

Robust Graphics Booster - FAST
CPU Clock Ratio - 9X
CPU Host Frequency - 545 or 556
PCI Express Frquency - 100 Going higher seems to help a little.
C.I.A.2 - Disabled
CPU Clock Drive - 1000mV
PCI Express Clock Drive 1000mV
Clock skews are all set to 0PS.

****DRAM Performance Control****
Performance Enhance - Standard
Extreme Memory Profile - Disabled
(G) MCH Frequency Latch - 400MHz
System Memory Multiplier - 2.00
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual
>>>Sandard Timing Control<<<
CAS Latency Time - 6
tRCD - 6
tRP - 6
tRAS - 18
>>>Advanced Timing Control<<<
tRRD - 15
tWTR - 15
tWR - 31
tRFC - 255
tRTP - 15
Command Rate - 3
>>>>Channel A Timing Settings
Static tRead Value - 15
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel A Driving Settings
Driving Strength Profile - OC-1200
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel B Timing Settings
Same as Chanel A.
>>>>Channel B Driving Settings
Same as Channel A.

****Motherboard Voltage Control****
>>>>CPU
Load Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Vcore - 1.60000V
CPU Termination - 1.660V
CPU PLL - 1.810V
CPU Reference - 1.036V
>>>>MCH/ICH
MCH Core - 1.660V
MCH Reference - 1.051V
MCH/DRAM Refence - 0.920
ICH I/O - 1.750V
ICH Core - 1.300V
>>>DRAM
DRAM Voltage - 2.100V
DRAM Termination - 1.050V
Channel A Reference - 1.050V
Channel B Reference - 1.050V

CPU Features are all Disabled.

The memory timings are just set for maximum stability but will go much lower.

CPU Clock Drive - 1000mV
PCI Express Clock Drive -1000mV

****DRAM Performance Control****
Performance Enhance - Standard
Extreme Memory Profile - Disabled
(G) MCH Frequency Latch - 400MHz
System Memory Multiplier - 2.00
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual

>>>Advanced Timing Control<<<
All set manually to Defaults
>>>>Channel A Timing Settings
Static tRead Value - 11 or 12 going higher can help out a lot.
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel A Driving Settings
Driving Strength Profile - OC-1200
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel B Timing Settings
Same as Chanel A.
>>>>Channel B Driving Settings
Same as Channel A.

****Motherboard Voltage Control****
>>>>CPU
Load Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Vcore - 1550000V
CPU Termination - 1.460V
CPU PLL - 1.610V
CPU Reference - 0.924V
>>>>MCH/ICH
MCH Core - 1.600V
MCH Reference - .964V
MCH/DRAM Refence - 1.100V  It doesn't seem to matter much
ICH I/O - 1.650V
ICH Core - 1.200V
>>>DRAM
DRAM Voltage - 2.100V
DRAM Termination - 1.050V
Channel A Reference - 1.050V
Channel B Reference - 1.050V

The bottom one will do around 4.85Ghz at static tREAD 10.

[nkresho]

Where did you read that? I haven't come across a single dead OCZ LV module.

You know what... I was too quick to type.

I was basing my information of the elpida hyper graveyard thread. Although, reading further into it, that only affected the ddr3 variants. I initially browsed the thread a bit too quickly.

I actually got rid of my lv blades partially because I saw that thread and the fact that they were really hard to get stable at stock speeds with stock voltages. On the ocz forums there are tons of people having difficulty getting them stable at stock specs. I was one of them.

I have to apologize for my misjudgement though. I retract my previous statement about them dying. my bad.

[nkresho]

uh-oh....

hope I didn't start something

PPS:



are we talking like 2.10, or 2.20 or even 2.30 PLUS here???

Cause I have Viper 800 and give it 2.30 (2.27 in CPUID) - but on the sticks it says 2.20 and no problem so far...

Or are we talking much lower here before it dies????

or should I say SERIOUS OC'ing like 2.35-2.40, 2.45????

Cause if I went with the ripjaws or the PI ones I was kinda hoping for 1300MHZ OC since the Team Extreem ones are nowhere to be found these days... (you know: at least as a minimum)

And you didn't start something, I did. My bad. I was just too quick to type.

Your dram voltage question answered two posts earlier...

Yes mate i can bench 3DM06 till 4707+ then temps are an issue...i will send you a template im using PL8 with mem at 1255, but for 4815 i went up on PL like 13...but still CL5 its a matter of MCH high (i have to use 1,7+, and vdimm till 2,4) i also have an antec spot cooler with the plate over it i like it that way lol, but mem and mch are cool, of course i know it may be better to take it off.

Cheers
Sergio

Andressergio is putting 2.4v through his pi sticks in this instance.

[Gameman]

I retract my previous statement about them dying. my bad.

That might be good news for me.... maybe then the Ripjaws CAN hold their water at higher voltages....

They have to at least work at stock, otherwise that's pretty sad and they are going back...

Thanks for the update...

edit: thanks, didn't read the whole post...oops

Andressergio is putting 2.4v through his pi sticks in this instance.

That's more what I was hoping for...

More good news for me...

I never like to go above 2.30 if I can...

Thanks again

edit2: will probably go with PI 9600 like you said, but if the cheaper Ripjaws can handle it, so much the better..

100.00$$$ Canadian for 4 GB of Ram that runs at 1200 ain't half bad...

I wish when I built my FIRST pc (775) I had had the sense to pick up a kit of those Team 1300 ones...Damn that's fast....

Just read more reviews...sounds good, although nothing on the Ripjaws yet - will probably have to just try them....

That PI stuff seems to be a hit with most people..although 180.00 Canadian is a bit on the steep side...but if I was to buy one Ram kit that was to last me for good, then this probably would be it.... I personally would not put 2.4 volts through ram this expensive (but that's just me) however 2.20, 2.30 - 2.35 possibly would sit well with me...

I wanna thank you nkresho, this has been a real eye-opener....

Cheers

[zsamz_]

ripjaws or any lv kit not gonna like xtra juice
if you want 1300mhz get the pi
if you good with 1240 get the ripjaws

[Gameman]

ripjaws or any lv kit not gonna like xtra juice
if you want 1300mhz get the pi
if you good with 1240 get the ripjaws

1240 is fine.... way more than I got now....

I gotta save anyway...

first I have to get the Q9550, then the ripjaws...(I'll reserve the PI for later)

Heck, now that I think about it, I'll be happy with even stock....

I don't wanna push it.....

But if it turns out like some of that 1150 stuff I've heard about then they be goin back......and quick....

[The Viper]

Does anyone know if their are any OCing differences with the different RAM slots?

[rubber5]

Try just setting your CPU voltage to 1.35 and your chipset to 1.4 and then your memory to 2.1 and leave everything else auto except the performance level and your memory strap. All of your gtls at auto at first. Mine I have noticed this for a fact now after having this motherboard for about a week now that if I set the gtls my self at first it won't boot, leave them at auto and vualua boot.

I also noticed that if I leave my memory at 1.8v it won't boot either. I think the motherboard thinks because the memory is running at 1150MHz it needs 2.1 and it won't let me boot with out it set to that. Kind of a weird thing but, whatever the memory is running cool at that voltage any way. Hope that helps.

Once you get a feel for what to set the volts to the lowest possible volts, then start setting your gtls one by one checking for stability every time you make a change until you have everything else manually set as well.

hi there i have done that
vcore 1.35volts
mch 1.4volts
everything else auto
but the motherbord just wont boot do you think i have hit the highest clock with the cpu becuse i can only get 3.6 anything else and it wont post
thanks for the help

[truehighroller]

hi there i have done that
vcore 1.35volts
mch 1.4volts
everything else auto
but the motherbord just wont boot do you think i have hit the highest clock with the cpu becuse i can only get 3.6 anything else and it wont post
thanks for the help

Maybe be you have yes but, mine is acting funny I think.

I just lapped my CPU and when I put it back in, cleared the CMOS and went right back to setting the settings that I had wrote down that I had set that were stable. The MB started acting all crazy and I just now got it to settle down a little, that is to stabelize a little by setting my NB to 1.5 and my nb gtl at .94 or 95.

I can't remember but, it pisses me off. I had everything wrote down to the T and it just acts like the whole game has changed on me now... Is this normal behavior any body? I know that my VDrop, is .066v, is that in spec? I am talking about VDrop here to not VDroop.

The overclocking gods have not been smiling on me lately.

[Machinus]

How is this board for crossfire? The manual says dual 8x lanes, what does that mean performance wise compared to dual 16x?

[Jor3lBR]

Heh can some of you guys (ie. Andressergio, Jor3lBR, etc.) who have been benching your Q9650s between 4.6-4.9, post some templates for 3d benching on here for me to compare. I tried searching but most of you guys just post a screenshot of benchmark, cpuz, memset, etc.

Hey Viper, I bench the Q9650 around 4945-4980Mhz and rams using 2:50 strap around 1360-1370Mhz PL 8 > Turbo.

But you can only do that on the P45-Extreme (UD3 2:50 is a little bugged) so I don't think my profile will help.

I can try to retrieve some of my old benching profiles from the UD3. Just need some time.

[DipStick]

Hey guys, I don't post much but I figured I'd post my oc settings in case they can help someone out. They have held up since February I think.
Could not have worked this without this place. Love ya all and this mobo

Robust Graphics Booster - FAST
CPU Clock Ratio - 8.5X
CPU Host Frequency - 506
PCI Express Frquency - 100
C.I.A.2 - Disabled
CPU Clock Drive - 1000mV
PCI Express Clock Drive 1000mV
Clock skews are all set to 0PS.

****DRAM Performance Control****
Performance Enhance - Standard
Extreme Memory Profile - Disabled
(G) MCH Frequency Latch - Auto
System Memory Multiplier - 2.00B
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual
>>>Standard Timing Control<<<
CAS Latency Time - 5
tRCD - 5
tRP - 5
tRAS - 15
>>>Advanced Timing Control<<<
tRRD - Auto
tWTR - Auto
tWR - Auto
tRFC - 55
tRTP - Auto
Command Rate - Auto (2)
>>>>Channel A Timing Settings
Static tRead Value - 9 (biggest stability enhancer in my case, default 8)
Everything else is Auto
>>>>Channel B Timing Settings
Same as Chanel A.

****Motherboard Voltage Control****
>>>>CPU
Load Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Vcore - 1.40625v
CPU Termination - 1.34V
CPU PLL - 1.57V
CPU Reference - .888V
>>>>MCH/ICH
MCH Core - 1.40V
MCH Reference - .928V
MCH/DRAM Refence - Auto
ICH I/O - Auto
ICH Core - Auto
>>>DRAM
DRAM Voltage - 2.100V
DRAM Termination - Auto
Channel A Reference - Auto
Channel B Reference - Auto

CPU: Q9650
Board revision: 1.0 (original)
Ram: 4x2GB G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
Bios: F10e beta (settings worked the same with previous releases)
Cooling: Thermalright u120e (original) and single 120mm 60cfm fan.
Max core temps: 70c cpu/cores: 62-67c
PSU: Enermax 1kw dxx
Case: CM 932


Thanks to paul_ for the template

Edit- I want to stress the tRead value for anyone with the same board/ram combo. Go up one from the default. I could not break 473fsb and symptoms included core 1 dying out in P95 Blend after a few minutes and the nvidia driver resetting even when surfing the web.

[User111]

Resolved!!! It was the excessive heat from pcb of my 4870