Can someone please tell me whats on next after the ATI-FILES.
Can someone please tell me whats on next after the ATI-FILES.
Repeat of Jen-Hsun Huang's 'Whoop Your Ass'Originally Posted by To(V)bo Co(V)bo
Can someone please tell me whats on next after the ATI-FILES.
3D version
The head engineer at ATI sold his soul for design schematics to Satan. It turned out the schematics were for a GT300. The designers then decided what a piss poor design we'll only get yields less than 10%. So they sent out a signal to aliens. Aliens then met with the engineers from ATI. In agreement for a new design they must collect puppies, kittens, and kangaroo's, to be used as fuel for their space ships. Mean while the facility in AZ is getting retrofitted for kangaroo's. This was to be the most effective way to store the animals, as kangaroo's are used to a hotter climate. The aliens feeling like they have a chance to be competive went to Nvidia to bargain with them to develope their next generation gpu. However Jen-Hsun Huang declined as his primary diet is already that of kittens and puppies.Can someone please tell me whats on next after the ATI-FILES.
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for accuracy's sake, can we rename this thread to:
The ATi HD5XXX Thread + Nvidia 300 Series Speculation
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I would like to say that this accusation is definitely false. As Satan's Secretary of Internal Affairs I would like to note that no such deal has occurred!
Rule#1 Deny, deny, deny!
thats because someone posted a gt300 article in here.for accuracy's sake, can we rename this thread to:
The ATi HD5XXX Thread + Nvidia 300 Series Speculation
Your system is FUBARed then - I play Clear Sky at 1920x1200 with all eye candy on with my 4850 X2 2GB...
Just what the hell are you talking about?Clear Sky RUNS JUST FINE for several months now.
They not only fixed everything but xRay v1.5 (current engine under a fully patched Clear Sky) is actually a gorgeous-looking DX11 engine that scales from DX8 hardware to my 4850 X2 2GB and runs at decent framerate.
If you want to see a really poorly coded (=PoC-level) game look at Crysis.
Even a dead clock is right twice a day.Maybe because he was so right last time about Nvidia's defective chips for example
The game's release when, y'know, half of it seemed unfinished?Just what the hell are you talking about?
They not only fixed everything but xRay v1.5 (current engine under a fully patched Clear Sky) is actually a gorgeous-looking DX11 engine that scales from DX8 hardware to my 4850 X2 2GB and runs at decent framerate.
If you want to see a really poorly coded (=PoC-level) game look at Crysis.
They've obviously done a lot since its release but the game was far from release-ready
Hitler gets informed about the rumored ATI Evergreen prices
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLXfDO1u7-I
Hitler, as Nvidia's CEO, gets informed about ATI's Evergreen series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR45ja_fNzU
Both of them were hillarious. Especially at the beginning.
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What is the die size of GT300?
Repeat of Jen-Hsun Huang's 'Whoop Your Ass'
3D version
6 days to go, and no leaks?
what did ati do to the NDA signed people?
Used some gadgets or hired FBI using smoke and dagger to follow them 24/7?
its impressive none the less.
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Obviously but it is a well-coded game.
There's a world between being buggy due to early release and being poorly written.
Hahaha wow that was hilarious
Last edited by zerazax; 09-15-2009 at 10:56 PM.
Dunno, it's the 2763275354th subject with this Hitler video.
This thread needs moderation.
You were not supposed to see this.
Dunno if it has been posted already, but this worries me a bit... performance might be brillinat, heatoutput might be amasingly high
Sorry it it's a repost :
Time to put off the heating againWe've heard that ATI is working on an X2 version of Radeon HD 5870 card but the biggest obstacle is the power and how to cool such a card.
We’ve learned that the current TDP for X2 is 376W and that the company is working on this issue, as apparently they will have to slow down the GPUs down by quite a lot to get rid of the heat.
Even if they use downclocked Radeon 5850 cores that run at 725MHz, the power goes down by only 36W (2x170W) to 340W. The hottest card from ATI so far was HD 4870 X2 that had TDP of 286W. To release a Radeon HD 5870 X2 card ATI should go down at least to 300W, especially due to thermal issues, but who knows, maybe ATI will launch 300W+ card.
Are they serious ?We might be looking at the dawn of graphics cards with three or even four power connectors, as two might not be enough this time.
That's from fudzilla. Like everyone said, 5870x2 doesn't mean doubling the TDP. Looke at 4870x2 for example, one 4870 is 160~170W TDP. So far fudzilla has been the most unreliable this time around.
looking at the amd perf slides i have to say... i expected more?
the 5870 beats a 295 by a long shot in several games, but where it matters, where you really need the extra fps, ie far cry2, crysis, cod... its 20% slower than a 295...
and the 5850 beats a 285 for sure, but not by that much, and again where you really need the extra perf its about the same as the 285...
upgrading from a 285 to 5850 doesnt make sense i think, upgrading to a 5870 maybe... but from a 295 to a 5870 again doesnt seem to make sense, on the contrary...
im really surprised that doubling every resource in the gpu, tweaking it and clocking it really high... the performance is still not notably higher than that of the 285, which is an oced 280, which is 18 months old...
looking forward to propper reviews though, who knows how good those amd benchmarks are, probably all with amd cpu at stock speed, so not really that useful and painting quite a diferent picture
Some people should calm downAnd just wait. 23/24 September we will know what the HD5870 really can do. RV5870 CF performance will show us what a X2 could do. So we will have quite a good indication of what AMD can do this year.
GT300 is still far away. I wont be surprised if we see good GT300 availability somewhere in Q2 2010.
If the current leaked specs are true we will be looking at a GTX285 x 2 and maybe a bit more. But we dont know enough about the GT300 to know that for sure.
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a moderator should go through this thread and delete any post which is off topic including this one...
or the name of the thread should be changed to dx11 tech, multimonitor speculation thread...
this thread has lost all coherance...
I think you should take a more detailed look to the performance comparisons (particularly the ones with numbers and resolutions and all): HD5850 is beating GTX285 in nearly all games (including STALKER CS and Crysis Warhead), some by more, some by less, so no way that the HD5870 is not noticeably faster than GTX285.looking at the amd perf slides i have to say... i expected more?
the 5870 beats a 295 by a long shot in several games, but where it matters, where you really need the extra fps, ie far cry2, crysis, cod... its 20% slower than a 295...
and the 5850 beats a 285 for sure, but not by that much, and again where you really need the extra perf its about the same as the 285...
upgrading from a 285 to 5850 doesnt make sense i think, upgrading to a 5870 maybe... but from a 295 to a 5870 again doesnt seem to make sense, on the contrary...
im really surprised that doubling every resource in the gpu, tweaking it and clocking it really high... the performance is still not notably higher than that of the 285, which is an oced 280, which is 18 months old...
looking forward to propper reviews though, who knows how good those amd benchmarks are, probably all with amd cpu at stock speed, so not really that useful and painting quite a diferent picture
On the other hand, in the comparison between HD5870 and GTX295, you can see that STALKER CS runs 38.4 vs 40.5 without AA and 24.2 vs 22.3 with 4xAA (so no 20% lower, even higher with AA) and Crysis warhead is 51.5 vs 53.6 and 43.6 vs 48.5 respectively (~3% and ~11% performance difference respectively) so...
In general, the difference between HD5850 and GTX285 (favorable to the Radeon) is equal or greater than the difference between GTX295 and HD5870 (favorable to the GeForce, if we don't count 8xMSAA results). So we could say that GTX285 is trading blows with HD5850 (favoring the ATi card) and GTX295 with HD5870 (favoring the NVIDIA dual card).
You can take a look to this post if you want to examine better the leaked benchmarks: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=892
Of course, you should note that maybe a change from GTX295 to HD5870 is not so greatest performance wise (probably consumption, heat and price will be another thing), the same way that a change from HD3870 to HD4650 is not. If you want to see if changing from a dual high end chip configuration to the new generation is a gain, you should wait for HD5870 X2, or make an idea with a HD5870 CrossFire (wich here you can see how it scales, destroying a GTX295 SLI -as it's to expect given that the NVIDIA configuration is a 2x2=4 chips scaling, so much harder to scale).
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