Honestly nvidia is being beaten, if they dont come with the GTX 380 soon, ATI is going to steal ALOT, i mean ALOT of customers, 5870 should be good for a while to come, im sure the performance difference will be very much like the 4890 vs gtx 285, and price difference should be around $100 when the gtx launches, cmon nvidia, time to step it up, were they sleeping this whole year?