The ATI Radeon 5XXX Thread

[iTravis]

Ha ha.....from here; http://venturebeat.com/2009/09/10/am...uter-displays/


Wow, nVidia realy think physX is the ants pants.




Acer, Dell, HP, MSI and Toshiba are creating computers using AMD’s latest graphics chips. In response, Nvidia said in a statement, “The gaming world has moved to dynamic realism, which depicts actual physical movement more realistically than ever before. For example, the No. 1 PC game coming out next week is ‘Batman: Arkham Assyum,’ which takes advantage of graphics plus physics to give it extraordinary realism. Because we support GPU-accelerated physics, our $129 card that’s shipping today is faster than their new RV870 (code name for new AMD chips) that sells for $399.”

It all started from this statement and I have to put a flame suit on.
Back to the topic, is the release date official? We should have some pre-order by now.

[labs23]

It all started from this statement and I have to put a flame suit on.
Back to the topic, is the release date official? We should have some pre-order by now.

It is official in my place, at least. If I have the money I could've pre-ordered one 5870 by now.
In fact a distro here was starting to accept pre-orders since Sept. 8, yeah 2 days before the launch date.

I'm from Philippines BTW.

[FischOderAal]

It is official in my place, at least. If I have the money I could've pre-ordered one 5870 by now.
In fact a distro here was starting to accept pre-orders since Sept. 8, yeah 2 days before the launch date.

I'm from Philippines BTW.

They are not listed in Geizhals.at/de yet

[w0mbat]

They are not listed in Geizhals.at/de yet

http://www.schottenland.de/preisverg...Radeon-HD-5870

[FischOderAal]

http://www.schottenland.de/preisverg...Radeon-HD-5870

Danke

[bowman]

Any rumored Euro prices? If it's really gonna cost $450 (as in, not €450, but the dollar price in euros) then I'm in.

But it probably won't, like everything else.

[Piotrsama]

You see, both my HD4890's died this week. Dunno why, they just passed away.

That's very strange, 2 cards in a week?
Don't you think that maybe the PSU is to blame?

[Hornet331]

Any rumored Euro prices? If it's really gonna cost $450 (as in, not €450, but the dollar price in euros) then I'm in.

But it probably won't, like everything else.

Euro prices are usually 1:1

[flopper]

Nvidia will re-name and re-badge the current 280 series as the new fresh 300 series.
Worked before.

after all, the public and buyers dont care, rite?


Looking forward NDA and cards to buy from ati.

[Oberon]

*cough* those who don't game already had sophisticated multimonitor solutions for years, also called matrox

They have specialized products for finance and medical imaging for ages, ati can only dream about entering into those markets.

The TripleHead2Go only supports up to three monitors. AMD doubles that number (and more if you use more than one card) and enables you to arrange those monitors in many difference configurations than would be possible with a Matrox solution since windows should be none the wiser as to the number or abilities of the monitors being used.

[Heinz68]

Ha ha.....from here; http://venturebeat.com/2009/09/10/am...uter-displays/


Wow, nVidia realy think physX is the ants pants.




Acer, Dell, HP, MSI and Toshiba are creating computers using AMD’s latest graphics chips. In response, Nvidia said in a statement, “The gaming world has moved to dynamic realism, which depicts actual physical movement more realistically than ever before. For example, the No. 1 PC game coming out next week is ‘Batman: Arkham Assyum,’ which takes advantage of graphics plus physics to give it extraordinary realism. Because we support GPU-accelerated physics, our $129 card that’s shipping today is faster than their new RV870 (code name for new AMD chips) that sells for $399.”

That's great. I better sell my HD 4870 x2 fast. Anybody knows which one is the nVidia $129,- card I should buy?

[Bojamijams]

matrox? haha.. their 3d acceleration is equivalent to onboard graphics

[gamervivek]

Nvidia will re-name and re-badge the current 280 series as the new fresh 300 series.
Worked before.

after all, the public and buyers dont care, rite?


Looking forward NDA and cards to buy from ati.

no no they have Physx and batman yumass game what's the point in laboring when your lower end cards are beating the crap out of the competition's high end.

Acer, Dell, HP, MSI and Toshiba are creating computers using AMD’s latest graphics chips. In response, Nvidia said in a statement, “The gaming world has moved to dynamic realism, which depicts actual physical movement more realistically than ever before. For example, the No. 1 PC game coming out next week is ‘Batman: Arkham Assyum,’ which takes advantage of graphics plus physics to give it extraordinary realism. Because we support GPU-accelerated physics, our $129 card that’s shipping today is faster than their new RV870 (code name for new AMD chips) that sells for $399.”

[SubZero.it]

Any preorder for europe/italy?

[Jowy Atreides]

no no they have Physx and batman yumass game what's the point in laboring when your lower end cards are beating the crap out of the competition's high end.

Nvidia are saying their low end is faster than the 2.7Tflop MONSTER KILL! GOD LIKE! L-L-UDICROUS KILL..

Yeah, I'm sure.....

[ajaidev]

Nvidia are saying their low end is faster than the 2.7Tflop MONSTER KILL! GOD LIKE! L-L-UDICROUS KILL..

Yeah, I'm sure.....

You dont understand, with a Nvidia card you can play it sure the game will be sluggish but when you kill a guy and his head falls to the ground it will bounce like it would if it was real where as in ATi's cases you can probable play the game maxed out but the head will not fall like it would in reality...


So there you go on one hand you have perfection be it at less than playable fps but on other hand you have fast paced action with bullets/things flying here and there but no realistic head falling

[bowman]

If the game has PhysX. It seems NVIDIA has almost run out of fingers to count those games on with the release of the new Batman game.

I suppose they fail to notice the DX11+OpenCL train coming, and that they are tied to the tracks.

[OBR]

Batman Game is totally boring crap ..., who cares about PhysX there ...?

[AKM]

Batman Arkham Asylum is a good game but you can enjoy it just the same without PhysX IMO.

[Gambit_2K]

Batman Game is totally boring crap ..., who cares about PhysX there ...?

The Batman game is totally brilliant, it's the best superhero game ever. And superhero games are huge even if they suck (when it comes to sales). That's why they keep releasing them despite bad reviews. So the game is a big selling point for nVidia. Ati only seem to pick the crap games. And that's coming from me who's a huge Ati/AMD fan.

[Sh1tyMcGee]

Honestly nvidia is being beaten, if they dont come with the GTX 380 soon, ATI is going to steal ALOT, i mean ALOT of customers, 5870 should be good for a while to come, im sure the performance difference will be very much like the 4890 vs gtx 285, and price difference should be around $100 when the gtx launches, cmon nvidia, time to step it up, were they sleeping this whole year?

[RaZz!]

Batman Arkham Asylum is a good game but you can enjoy it just the same without PhysX IMO.

idd. played the demo (which is really good and makes me want to play more) without physx and i didn't have the feeling i was missing something at all.

[jaredpace]

Quick, skim $11 mil off the top, before its time to issue Evga bucks to everyone....

http://www.gurufocus.com/news.php?id=69204

- "Justice will be served."

[Muunsyr]

I don't think that many people in a gaming environment(not work as I mentioned earlier), have multimonitor set up. Too much space, too much money. (how alive is the flight sim market today) and no real impact on gaming experience.

More people use multimonitors for gaming than overclock, surely you jest. If what you said is true, than companies like thermalright would have gone bankrupt a long time ago.

Not taking a performance hit, now your just talking out of your ass. More pixels... ....forget about it, you should know this already.

Most card can do dual monitors now(especially the cards that have the power to push this resolution), its the triple monitor audience that eyefiniti matters and this market is alot alot alot smaller than the overclocking market.

The 5870 was running 80 fps playing WOW with 6 30" monitors with max details. Any other game with max details is going to be unplayable as WOW is a crazy old game.

I am a uni-student, with low income. I do have two 24" monitors (Dell 2408's, PVA panels, not the horrible TN stuff) which I bought at the beginning of the year. I love them. They were totally worth it. By my income, they cost an arm and a leg. And yet, I am seriously tempted to go and spend what tax return I get on a 5870 and a third monitor. Between work and uni I don't have much time left for gaming, and I am fighting an internal battle between sensible expenditure and desire for a third monitor. I had originally considered a third screen, but running a second graphics card felt too messy. What am I trying to say? I am almost the exact opposite of the lottery winners with too much time on their hands, and yet I am still considering getting three screens.

Secondly, please remember that it is very easy to lose sight of the bigger picture when everyone here is familiar with overclocking. I am employed by a city based retail computer store. We get a lot of customers asking about overclocking, and a few of them giving it a try - but this is nothing compared to the number of people we sell two monitors to. And several of whom have decided that they would prefer two cheaper, TN monitors over one better one. Many of these people aren't gamers, or are very casual ones, most don't seem to care about the better quality panels (I would say they don't know what they are missing out on, but my boss wasn't even convinced after I showed him the difference - said he couldn't see it). Many of these multi-monitor customers do some trading, although some have just decided that monitors are cheap enough, and graphics cards just about all come with dual outputs, so why not? Given three outputs, and even cheaper, larger displays (because that is where it is heading) I can see Eyefinity working and being popular. After all, who doesn't want THREE monitors! THREE! Totally awesome. And even non geeks get how cool that is.

[Tim]

Honestly nvidia is being beaten, if they dont come with the GTX 380 soon, ATI is going to steal ALOT, i mean ALOT of customers, 5870 should be good for a while to come, im sure the performance difference will be very much like the 4890 vs gtx 285, and price difference should be around $100 when the gtx launches, cmon nvidia, time to step it up, were they sleeping this whole year?

You only need to buy one of the high end cards once every three years, only a fool wouldn't wait to see nVidia's offering. It's not like we need all that power right away do we.

Yes nVidia needs something this year, and it will have to be a fast card, significantly faster if it's going to be ~$500, but it doesn't hurt to wait and see.