Radeon HD 5870 Six with 6 display outputs, prices, performance

[Andrew LB]

Really? That was the main thing that kept me from digging more into this subject. I was always concerned about the thick corners of the monitors.

I'm not overly concerned about the gaps between monitors as long as they can be minimized as much as possible.

Most programs that you'd want to play on multiple screens (3x.... since 6x would be insanely expensive) tend to be flight simulators and driving games. That being the case, I doubt many of you guys have driven a car or piloted a small aircraft in which the vehicle did not have support pillars like the A-Pillars in a car on either side of the windshield. Setting up the screens so the gaps are where you'd normally have these supports would make these gaps something you'd really not pay much attention to.

edit: well... now that i think about it, this wouldn't much apply to flight sims nearly as much. While the first two 2 seat trainers I flew (A Cessna 152 and Cessna Skycatcher) had an upper fixed wing which kept the pit rather car-like. Now the single engine 2-seater LSA (light sport aircraft) that I got to fly after I got my license was a completely different world. Nothing like a bubble canopy.

[Nedjo]

I think that display manufacturers love AMD very much at this moment! In ever declining prices of monitors only way for them to improve business is to sell more monitors, and this is excellent reason!

Imagine gaming caffes, or tradeshows... or... don't know you gave suggestion... you can run six HD displays on a singe ~300 USD card!!!

[labs23]

Oh please, don't let it be the EyeInfinity AMD is touting when they said "You won't believe your eyes."
Because it seems there's more of the EI shown rather than some performance of the card. Is there something worth keeping at all?


BTW, some ppl are talking about Crysis on 5870 here(1st post), Chiphell, Translated.
I can't read Chinese nor fully trust Google's translation. So, was that a simulated perf.?

[jaredpace]

I think that display manufacturers love AMD very much at this moment! In ever declining prices of monitors only way for them to improve business is to sell more monitors, and this is excellent reason!

Imagine gaming caffes, or tradeshows... or... don't know you gave suggestion... you can run six HD displays on a singe ~300 USD card!!!

It's 4 of these:


like this... LOL



@labs23
Crysis was a real run on win7, phII, and an OC'd 58701GB, but there is nothing to compare it to, and no specifics as to which map, etc.

One card can play crysis at 24 megapixels... WHAT!?!

[astrallite]

They must have CrossFired OCed 5870s to make that happen O_O

[marten_larsson]

Oh please, don't let it be the EyeInfinity AMD is touting when they said "You won't believe your eyes."
Because it seems there's more of the EI shown rather than some performance of the card. Is there something worth keeping at all?


BTW, some ppl are talking about Crysis on 5870 here(1st post), Chiphell, Translated.
I can't read Chinese nor fully trust Google's translation. So, was that a simulated perf.?

I can't understand why you are bad mouthing this? I'm really getting excited about this, I've been waiting to buy my first LCD but now I'm more into getting three (one expensive and two cheaper), it would really be insane. Maybe even getting a second 5870 to get some decent fps... Finally I can start driving racing sims again, now the FOV is improved at least. The "only" thing missing is a G-force chair...

[sosna]

there not trying to do that though whats the point of one screen havign uber high res, people there targeting dont care about that they want to be "in" the game and having 3 screens giving them a massive field of view is what there after, its pretty much aimed at people playing simulation games... nothing to do with how pretty it looks (go look in the thread in pc gaming about flight sims then you will understand why people ati are targeting will love it)

+1!

[Salavat23]

Too bad probably no 5870 reference cards will come with 6 display outputs. It'll be up to manufacturers to include that IMO.

[sosna]

Really? That was the main thing that kept me from digging more into this subject. I was always concerned about the thick corners of the monitors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTA9CMTShI

the gap is there but after a while u dont even notice.

[labs23]

I can't understand why you are bad mouthing this? I'm really getting excited about this, I've been waiting to buy my first LCD but now I'm more into getting three (one expensive and two cheaper), it would really be insane. Maybe even getting a second 5870 to get some decent fps... Finally I can start driving racing sims again, now the FOV is improved at least. The "only" thing missing is a G-force chair...

Certainly got nothing bad about EI, its an added bonus from AMD that will surely benefit many ppl in the long run.

I just hope they devote equal attention bet. features and performance. No one would want a "up the specs. a bit, add a new feature, and call it DX11" scenario right?

[Morais]

I'd like to see grid on those panels

[jaredpace]

I think this is grid, but it's only 6 lcds:

[Bojamijams]

“Samsung has worked tirelessly to give consumers high-quality monitors that deliver both superb image quality and amazing design and ergonomics, and with our latest line of ultra-thin bezel displays, we’re bringing the best of both worlds to bear for a phenomenal computing experience using PCs with ATI Eyefinity technology,” said Young Bae, Director of Display Product Marketing for Samsung Electronics America, Information Technology Division. “Samsung’s ultra-thin bezel displays combined with ATI Eyefinity technology gives PC users a virtually seamless canvas on which to enjoy the latest games, entertainment and productivity applications.”

We'll be able to get some sweet monitors for this setup. With some good wall mounts I hope

[marten_larsson]

Certainly got nothing bad about EI, its an added bonus from AMD that will surely benefit many ppl in the long run.

I just hope they devote equal attention bet. features and performance. No one would want a "up the specs. a bit, add a new feature, and call it DX11" scenario right?

Well, are you seriously doubting that Evergreen won't be DX11 compliant? I think the rumoured specs look very good - a doubling of RV770 in pure numbers and maybe even added performance per shader. So performance doesn't seem to a problem.

Add to that DXCS and tesselation I believe this is a generation that can last a long time. I was waiting for these cards but couldn't resist buying a 4850 at 100$ a year ago... And I'm not the least unimpressed yet.

[Jowy Atreides]

[evian_26]

24 projectors with edge blending on 300" projection screen>thats what I want
http://www.scalabledisplay.com/produ...yblend/classic

[Jowy Atreides]

http://209.85.229.132/translate_c?hl...YbP198KL8yM_VA

[Manicdan]

there not trying to do that though whats the point of one screen havign uber high res, people there targeting dont care about that they want to be "in" the game and having 3 screens giving them a massive field of view is what there after, its pretty much aimed at people playing simulation games... nothing to do with how pretty it looks (go look in the thread in pc gaming about flight sims then you will understand why people ati are targeting will love it)

i think theres a few things to correct

to get into a game, a large screen with AA will be good enough compared to multiple screens, all though for some extreme people it will be worth it to buy 3/5/6 monitors. i just got a 40" tv thats 1080p and i might try and place it on my desk and use as a monitor for a week and see how i like it.

and its way better for some games other than flight sims. MMOs love more real estate, FPS like the wide view. RTS love more pixels (wide and tall), action games probably not so much, since they are usually over the shoulder with the camera way back, and for racing, i would honestly have larger over more, since the closer you get to making your perspective closer to life, the easier it is to determine speed and distance. (and this is also where i would love to see higher framerates, 240FPS in a racing game will in my opinion be more important than getting better graphics)

[Frodin]

Hmm, if they go with that 45 degrees angled die again, I hope it won't make present third party coolers incompatible.

[Manicdan]

http://209.85.229.132/translate_c?hl...YbP198KL8yM_VA

lol Fallout 2 is on that list, thats gonna look really intersting

[Origin_Unknown]

I think it would be amazing if someone could create displays that were alot more seamless. The edges kill multidisplays for me :-/ But very cool stuff!

i kinda feel the same - i'd like to play oblivion on more than one screen (4 ) but i'd need an edgeless display first

[Jowy Atreides]

I seen someone post this who apparently went to the event:

AMD says that their next-gen GPU will 250% faster than the one introduced in Jul of 2008

http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...3Doff%26sa%3DG

The Radeon HD 4850 was announced on June 19, 2008 while the Radeon HD 4870 was announced on June 25, 2008

250%? Of the 4870?

Well, with 1600 shaders (double of the 4870) and faster memory at the clockspeed of the 4890 then yeah, 250% of the 4870 seams feasible.
Twice as fast and then a bit ..matches the leaked specs

[Manicdan]

what if they were to use some kind of reflection or refraction to get a .5mm bezel. we just saw samsung is working on making monitors for eyevision, but will it just be thin black strips, or are they trying some optical tricks to make it really look just like one screen

[Jowy Atreides]

I seen someone post this who apparently went to the event:

http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...3Doff%26sa%3DG



250%? Of the 4870?

Confirmed now, AMD indeed stated this:

1:46
AMD says that their next-gen GPU will 250% faster than the one introduced in Jul of 2008. That is going by raw TFLOPS

http://209.85.229.132/translate_c?hl...Jw3_Dzjn9VWg0w

So it seems the 24-40% increase in performance rumour is completely faked or it is referring to being faster than the 4870x2/295

DAAAAAAMN ...this card is gunna be FAST

[natty]

I hope that is true