Project Millertime: The Core I5 build
Crunching/folding box on air: AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition; Sapphire Radeon HD 4830; Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H; Lian Li PC-V351; Windows 7 RC
Feedback/question: I have a modded T3 (not sure if this affects performance)
My main loop as it turns out is very very very restrictive. And the my 2nd is almost unobstructed(its just a internal feedback loop to drive waterfall affect of the custom resvervoir).
Since water goes with the path of least resistance, its seems like if there is any difference in the flow path, that water will only really flow in the open loop, while there is very little flow in the other.
Has anyone else experienced this ? Are you guys balancing restriction of the loops at all ?
It helps if you give the wire like 3 or 4 turns counter clockwise before you slide it into the plug so that when you turn the cap to tighten it down your unwinding wire and end with it neutral...does that make sense...???
Actually the PEC acts a bit like a load or pressure balance...obviously it would not equalize 2 loops as far apart pressure wise as yours are but it makes having the loops exactly balanced a lot less critical.
Without knowing all the details of your set up (and even then it's still a lot of educated guesses) there is no way to say for sure yes or no. Have you run the set up and checked out your temps? Worst case you may have to reroute your loops to move an item or two off the "really really really" restrictive loop. Keep in mind that the T3 can move 2 times the water of other D5 tops in some setups so even if your restrictive loop was only getting 35% of the split between loops you might still have enough flow. Run it and see. You could also use a small clamp (aka a clothes pin) and constrict the lin into the waterfall and observer your temps to see if restricting that loops lowers temps on the other one. If it does, I would start with movning a rad or two from the cooling loop to the waterfall loop.
If your waterfall rez is one Of Warren's he can tell you how much flow you need for the waterfall to look good.
Last edited by BoxGods; 09-09-2009 at 05:26 PM.
Yeah I have the big 5 bay one, and I am doing exactly that. The main loop is res to feser 360 to HK, NB, VID back to res.
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Even at speed 5 it wasnt giving me enough flow to make the fall shine, so luckly I had the 2nd outlet to use. So its just a 2nd loop with a worm clamp to open and constrict flow as I test. I just had no way to telling how much flow is now going to the primary loop. So thought to ask what others have done in uneven restriction loops.
thx boxgods.
Great, 3,5M screws are nowhere to be found in shops around here... Why not use standard M3 or M4 screws, now I can put my build on hold to find these mysterious M3,5 screws. And my T3 had already been collecting dust because the PCICE fluid was messed up. I really dont get this.
The standard screws are just a few mm too short because my case uses this horrible mounting system. But since I live in the NL it would take forever to ship anyhow for just a few screws, I appreciate the gesture tho.
Lookin for a iron shop but seems its going to be quite the drive for those 4 damn screws :/
www.hexscrews.com
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Project Millertime: The Core I5 build
Crunching/folding box on air: AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition; Sapphire Radeon HD 4830; Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H; Lian Li PC-V351; Windows 7 RC
Yeah, the M3.5 drives me nuts too. When I specified the screws there was a sort of mix up. They used M3 inserts and I thought those were too small so I said please go up one size thinking M4 (I did not even know there was an M3.5) and they went up to M3.5.
I have them looking for an M4 insert that has the same OD as the M3.5 they are using so that future batches can have M4 ...you know cause life is not confusing enough now![]()
I will probably just try and secure it with the M3 screws.. They seem to have some grip...
Running the res/pump on its own loop now to check if my fitting leak with the bigger orings I got, so far so good. Just one more question before I put it in my build, what to do with the washers supplied with the T3? The sticky ones are the ones im talking about.. Haven't used them but also not getting any leaks... yet![]()
I mentioned your problem with a dye bomb to Brian at Primo Chill and he said "lemme guess, it was a black dye bomb". Apparently Black is very hard to do for a dye bomb because it requires so much dye or something. He said he would be happy to replace the black whith another color, or that if you needed black for your build to set you up with some Black PrimoFlex LRT. Just email him or better yet start a ticket and he would square you away.
Thanks for that! The coolant I was using was PC Pure. I originally ordered it intending to just use it clear without the dye bomb since the description said it would be delivered un-mixed but it actually arrived already mixed. I haven't been able to tear the loop apart yet to check for build-up but I can see staining through the top of my video card block (EK 295 single PCB block nickel with plexi top). No build up in there but the channels are nice and wide so I wouldn't expect any. My thinking though is that all the black dye would pretty much have to have accumulated somewhere, right? I mean it couldn't have just dissolved. I'll shoot him a mail but when he finds out I'm in Germany I doubt he'll be willing to ship tubing here due to the high cost of shipping.
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Project Millertime: The Core I5 build
Crunching/folding box on air: AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition; Sapphire Radeon HD 4830; Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H; Lian Li PC-V351; Windows 7 RC
BoxGods, I'm going to get a Typhoon III but I need to use a 90* barb on the outlet of the reservoir, so for that, I'll need a Bitspower 90* dual rotary barb, I've seen people having leaking issues so do you think it'll be ok?
Project Millertime: The Core I5 build
Crunching/folding box on air: AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition; Sapphire Radeon HD 4830; Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H; Lian Li PC-V351; Windows 7 RC
I have been over here for 8 1/2 years now and live about 45 minutes south of Munich near a town called Bad Tölz. You may have heard of it while you were in Munich. It is a pretty popular weekend retreat for the city dwellers.
Unfortunately there are no German shops that have any kind of Primochill selection. No tubing or fittings. A couple have the TIII and PC Pure fluid and Dye Bombs but that's about it. It looks like you have to go to U.K. to find anything else.
If I'm a danger to myself just think what I could do to you.
Bleeding and leak-testing now... and wow the D4 is noisy, and it won't even spin up at 7V. I put it on my fan controller for a little while, which helped a bit, but then the controller let out some magic smoke and that was the end of that....
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