Im wondering if a 5870 can consume 180-190w, how much can a 5870x2 pull? 360w? I was under the impression they couldn't exceed 300watts with 150 from the 8-pin, 75w from the pci-e power lanes, and 75w from the 6-pin. I mean a gtx295 consumes a little more than 2 55nm gtx260's and a 4870x2 consumes 2x a 4870. So i think they're going over 300watts unless they have some magic going on in the 5870x2. Maybe ati has increased transistor efficiency with the 40nm, but that doesn't explain the 5870 max of 180w!!?!