{Review} ~ D.F.I LanParty UT 790FXB-M3eH7 ~ "Coming Soon"

**Oese** · 08-01-2009, 02:00 PM

the 65nm microcode has drawbacks in actual functionality, that is ACC functionality, NOT core unlocking. Core unlocking is a bug that one can use nicely if lucky but it is NOT actual functionality. so if u want that in official biosses, you need an option in bios, that means the development of a whole new bioscode. leave that to the moneymakers asus and whatever..

if thats the only thing u want btw, core unlocking, well yeah then maybe DFI isnt right for you (although 402 bios is good with unlocking no "frustration" and first whole new bios with new feature 706 got that as an option as well). DFI is not cheap it is quality and most tweaking options you can get so u are likely to get a quality cpu for it.. and well, again, after all u of course can unlock the cores on your cpu if u want with a good and quality bios....

about "selected people": i bet you didnt ask for that 1 time via DFI's support or well at least maybe via brother esau or me... other people do that! Just communicate about the things you discover and dont just lean beg and hope for some "big company" to read your mind.. these times are over...

**Dopamin3** · 08-01-2009, 05:14 PM

For other am2+ boards I can see the point of not including the special ACC code, but with the 790FXB-M3H5 it only supports am3 processors, so ACC is not needed for anything. ACC was only used on Phenom I to provide higher overclocks. So I still don't see your point. Core unlocking wasn't the only thing I wanted. I wanted a solid board that could clock ram well and the DFI just seemed flaky to me. Enough talking about this. Sorry for derailing the thread. I hope the UT board comes out soon for those who are waiting.

**Oese** · 08-01-2009, 11:40 PM

i must give a corrective statement, sorry. ACC is working with am3/phenom II processors as well. You dont need it that badly for OC, but it helps and you can gain 100-150mhz stable with it! If other brand boards dont have working ACC for phenom II, its probably because of they want to have core unlocking at first place and use the wrong microcode for it.

about the flakyness (which i didnt experience so far): ddr3 is just a whole new story, and am3 processors and their ddr3 imc's are as well. i got 3 am3 boards from dfi to run that ram i have very good. just dont expect anything higher then ddr3-1600 at first try. am3 processors shine at tight timings more then on high ram frequencies. and after all, DFI boards are build for fine tuning, and that is what you need to do to clock your ram beyond what is reached on other platforms. Just using auto settings wont bring you the show and shine stuff...

**Brother Esau** · 08-02-2009, 06:43 AM

Well that would be nice for my ego sake if your statement of D.F.I only listening to me was true

Fact of the matter is that I am just a normal guy with the exception that I communicate well with people thats it

Things changed allot when D.F.I STREET became No More and the D.F.I Club Forum took its place. So now instead of the multitudes being Knowledgeable overclockers helping each other you basically have a bunch of noobs that no nothing about overclocking or these boards let alone them doing independent research for hardware compatibility prior to building a DFI system

So there's a big difference with people complaining a screaming about stuff they want when they don't really have a clue to begin with and people who do know whats what and making requests to D.F.I.

The First of the 2 out weighs the Latter by a great deal so that is the biggest problem really.

DFI STREET was a huge success and very popular forum and a good majority of people bought DFI just to belong to the forum.

If things were that way again on DFICLUB then well the multitudes would be consolidated in one place and it would bev easier for communication sakes correct?

Also myself as well I have all of the D.F.I AM3 Boards as well as the DDR2 SB750 JR Board and I have yet to have issue one from any of them.

So anyone that knows me will say and acknowledge that I tell it the way it is and I do not Sugar Coat anything and if I have something negative to say about a Boards Bios or the Board in general I will say it., regardless of D.F.I sending me boards and D.F.I knows that and so does everyone else.

**Dopamin3** · 08-02-2009, 08:16 AM

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_phenom_2_940_performance/page2.asp

AMD took the lessons learned through developing ACC with 65-nm Phenom and baked them into their 45-nm Phenom II silicon. As a result, ACC no longer provides the OC’ing benefits it did previously with 65-nm Phenom parts. In the words of AMD: “you can just as well leave ACC off for Phenom II OC testing. Since, the "go-fast" things we learned from ACC (and those CPU parameter adjustments) were factored into 45nm, the benefit unlocked previously by ACC in 65nm silicon is already being realized without having to use the ACC feature separately.” Over the Christmas holiday (before hearing this from AMD) we’d already attempted OC’ing our Phenom II CPU and sure enough, ACC provided no benefit when OC’ing the processor. We actually thought something was wrong with our 790GX motherboard until we heard back from AMD.

No one on OCZ forums or DFI Club helped me to set any ram settings. Only settings I changed were cpu-nb voltage, nb voltage, standard timings, and tRC. Subtimings seem like they are clocked fine because OCZ doesn't really program an SPD in so they probably use really loose values. But anyway you can tell DFI to send me a copy of UT 790FXB-M3eH7 to test

**Oese** · 08-02-2009, 09:10 AM

lol and because firingsquad says something like this i should not trust my own experience or what?

lets stop it..

and btw, it took me some years to find out about ram clocking. and each set of ram takes its month or two. its not like there are "the" settings that will work in any case. if you are lucky, someone knows the sticks you have. if u are unlucky there will be no help because no one knows... so i would recommend do the hard work yourself and learn about hardware.. thats what DFI boards are made for and i love them for it...

**Dopamin3** · 08-02-2009, 09:49 AM

I already said to get back on topic a few posts ago and apologizing for derailing the thread. There are other sites that say this about ACC too, even AMD says it was designed for Phenom I. I'm going to leave this thread. You can defend DFI all you want but I feel I have made my point. GL to DFI and their upcoming UT board. I'm sure every AM3 enthusiast doesn't already have a 790FX board

**Oese** · 08-02-2009, 01:11 PM

Yeah GL to you too m8 bb tell other people what you read somewhere and leave this thread to first hand information thank you.

**feniksgod** · 08-03-2009, 05:40 AM

What memory will support the new DFI. How many Mhz is the max and how many Mhz is the OC on memory ?!

**Oese** · 08-03-2009, 06:17 AM

micron d9jnl is running good (1600 7-6-6-20 over here) and elpida is not too bad also (1333 cl6)

max htt was 365-370 here what is very good. Max mhz on cpu/nb and ram depends on cpu/nb and ram as well...

**Praz** · 08-03-2009, 07:38 AM

Dopamin3

Remember what I wrote in one of your threads?

Originally Posted by Praz;

1600MHZ on the AMD platform is not a given just as 1T is not. I have tried 3 different types of 1600 speed ram and the board/CPU combination I'm using will not run stable. 2 sets were low voltage (1 being OCZ3P1600LVAM4GK) and 1 high voltage. On the Intel platform all 3 run at their rated speed and voltages without problems.

The above holds true for 2 different manufacturers' boards. Place the blame where it really belongs. Don't blame a board when there's just as much a possibility the your chip's IMC sucks.

**Dopamin3** · 08-03-2009, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Praz

Dopamin3

Remember what I wrote in one of your threads?

The above holds true for 2 different manufacturers' boards. Place the blame where it really belongs. Don't blame a board when there's just as much a possibility the your chip's IMC sucks.

So I guess every beta bios did nothing even though they say "Enhance the DRAM performance," "Change TRAS of DRAM Item select range?" I am much happier on another board that is able to run ram at much tighter timings and overclocks just as well. I can also change my NB Vid unlike on bios 0402. The DFI board got so flaky I couldn't even do 1333mhz with 7 timings. Also that stupid clear cmos button combination DFI implemented didn't work either. Is it too hard to put a button on like the majority of other manufacturers? Many reasons led me to rma the DFI board, and I'm very glad I did.

**markr** · 08-08-2009, 12:58 PM

Are there any reviews on this board yet?

**Dopamin3** · 08-08-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by markr

Are there any reviews on this board yet?

I haven't seen any yet. The only thing I've seen about it are pictures and it also holds the world record for overclocking a Phenom II x4 955 to 7ghz.

edit: it had the record but now Asus M4A79T has it

**DonGeilo** · 08-12-2009, 03:38 PM

I waiting for these board.....

greeting from Germany

**caveman_2** · 08-12-2009, 04:19 PM

I really want to get this board as i previously had a dk 790fxb m2rsh, was a great board but it wouldnt recognise the usb connection to my aquaero 4.0

So the board was sold and been using the m3a79 t deluxe since as it had no problems with the aquaero

Did anyone else who has an aquero and a dfi 790 board have this problem as i'm really tempted to get this one but not if it has this flaw still

**seeker010** · 08-12-2009, 10:35 PM

does this board allow changing NB speeds even with C'n'Q enabled like the 0422 bios for 790fx-m2r?

can DFI remove the feature that lets the phenom ii clock cores to the same speed with C'n'Q or at least have an option to remove it? I liked it better when each core would be separate.

can anyone with this board check?

**Oese** · 08-12-2009, 11:08 PM

NB speed change with cnq enabled YES

clocking each core independantly with cnq I will check..

**ZL1Killa** · 08-31-2009, 08:32 AM

How are things going with this board?

**Oese** · 08-31-2009, 09:09 AM

badly.. appears it will not come to market...

**Sgt.McRuff** · 08-31-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Oese

badly.. appears it will not come to market...

*RAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*

But but but i been good and waiting for it for months.

**rev43** · 08-31-2009, 11:45 AM

I was told by DFI in July that the DFI UT 790FXB-M3eH7 was not coming to market, and I have refrained from posting on here upon till now because DFI said they would make an anouncement on here to that effect,

I have sent them several e-mails the last one on Thursday the 13th August 2009 asking them to make the announcement on here as there were people waiting for this motherboard to become available, the silence from DFI has been deafening I am very disappointed with DFI if this is a sample of their support I will in future look elsewhere,

**Oese** · 08-31-2009, 01:47 PM

R&D Department is still trying to push the management but its low chance really...

Dunno either that board runs good they just need sell it^^

**rev43** · 08-31-2009, 10:40 PM

Personally I cannot understand DFI publicising the 790FXB-M3eH7 like they have and then not manufacturing it,there is no logic at all in this decision they have scored a massive own goal,