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    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    you guys are water/freezing water/phase/whatnot cooling and then youre telling me if i ever tried lower vtt

    for air cooling higher vtt is what keeps it going

    then again i guess im just a retard maxing voltages for no reason
    Just because I use water now doesnt mean its always been on water, ive just seen the light. You seem pretty defensive over what was a simple question.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    ^ ud3: 1.7-1.8vpll applies ^

    always:
    CPU Clock Drive................................[ 1000mv ]
    PCI Express Clock Drive......................[ 1000mv ]
    CPU Clock Skew.................................[ 0ps ]
    MCH Clock Skew.................................[ 0ps ]

    as for ref voltages.. always @ default
    Maybe thats part of your problem there, default ref. voltages and skews are for low clocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    template?? this whole thread is plastered with my results/voltages

    4.6ghz @ extreme: 1.62vcore/1.64vpll/1.66vtt/1.80vmch/2.66vdimm fsb:mem 4:5

    4.8ghz @ dq6: 1.6vcore/1.6vpll/1.8vtt/1.8vmch/2.6vdimm fsb:mem 1:1

    note: much higher load on the extreme than on the dq6


    you guys are water/freezing water/phase/whatnot cooling and then youre telling me if i ever tried lower vtt

    for air cooling higher vtt is what keeps it going

    then again i guess im just a retard maxing voltages for no reason
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    Nice Amigo
    Can U Submit Some 3D Banch Testing? With That Frquenc 4800MHZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViViD View Post
    Nice Amigo
    Can U Submit Some 3D Banch Testing? With That Frquenc 4800MHZ

    I Sell DFI And Give UD3R Next Week
    I Just Know This Frquency What Can Give CPU Score In 3D 06?
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    Gracias amigo

    That was my first boot at that frequency, will keep making in stable for bench and tweaking volts, as its a very low vid chip its hell at those volts but either way i will push it

    either way as an advance here's a ss for you at 4707 3DM06 also booted from bios



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    Quote Originally Posted by andressergio View Post
    Napalm this is dedicated to you Jor3LBR and OC nub, my first BOOT from BIOS at 535x9 = 4815
    NOT using ET6
    using auto timmings just to try



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    thanks mate but dont have to dedicate to me

    thats just 4.8 foreplay right there^ at such low voltages

    set vtt to 1.7 max
    set vmch to ~1.8
    set vpll @ 1.74/1.8 whichever boots up
    set vcore @ 1.55-1.575
    set vdimm @ 2.5 trust me i got the same kit and runs ~2.7 on a daily basis

    ram timmings: set 5-5-5-15 and the rest of the timmings set to what the bios shows

    try both 1:1 4:5

    you havent seen what your setup can do yet mate.. give it hell and you shall reap new oc clocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    thanks mate but dont have to dedicate to me

    thats just 4.8 foreplay right there^ at such low voltages

    set vtt to 1.7 max
    set vmch to ~1.8
    set vpll @ 1.74/1.8 whichever boots up
    set vcore @ 1.55-1.575
    set vdimm @ 2.5 trust me i got the same kit and runs ~2.7 on a daily basis

    ram timmings: set 5-5-5-15 and the rest of the timmings set to what the bios shows

    try both 1:1 4:5

    you havent seen what your setup can do yet mate.. give it hell and you shall reap new oc clocks
    thank you napalm will try
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    Nice job Sergio . Very hard to boot above 530.

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    very hard to boot over 530 ??

    2x q9650 545fsb windows booted + validation @ 4.9ghz on air.. no easytune


    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=422821


    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=434280

    1.2125vid: lower vcore @ higher temps
    1.2500vid: higher vcore @ lower temps

    both air cooled by the same ifx14

    havent checked but i think its still the wr on air

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    very hard to boot over 530 ??

    2x q9650 545fsb windows booted + validation @ 4.9ghz on air.. no easytune


    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=422821


    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=434280

    1.2125vid: lower vcore @ higher temps
    1.2500vid: higher vcore @ lower temps

    both air cooled by the same ifx14

    havent checked but i think its still the wr on air
    No napalm Tom said that referring to our vids..he got Q9650 vid 1,17 and mine is 1,1875 so we both can push it but in the end temp is a factor

    Very nice clocks as always mate

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    dont worry mate im not attacking oc nub

    just wanted to show that a good mobo/right voltages and settings.. high clocks can be booted even on air.. thats all

    ---

    i just checked the q9650 wrs: http://www.ripping.org/database.php?cpuid=851

    so mr. hoss331 here claims that his best clock 4958.98 is on air ??

    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=509199

    lying lamearse bastard.. you water/freezing water cooling (you said it yourself) and then you claim "air"

    good luck with your bulls{}t

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    Managed to hit 4914mhz on the Q9650 today, can't boot close to that or run it stable close to that though...
    I'm just running 1.62v CPU and 1.54v MCH.
    set vtt to 1.7 max
    set vmch to ~1.8
    set vpll @ 1.74/1.8 whichever boots up
    set vcore @ 1.55-1.575
    set vdimm @ 2.5 trust me i got the same kit and runs ~2.7 on a daily basis
    1.8v on the MCH core? Seems like a lot, what cooling is your mobo on?
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    every ep45 can run @ 1.8vmch air cooled

    if it seems like a lot to you.. dont run/set it @ 1.8


    you guys keep comparing ud3 vs my dq6/extreme while none of you got the same components i do.. not all ep45s are the same.. you guys went against everything (components/voltages) ive suggested.. dont expect the same results.. if one cant afford the same components i dont hold it against and never did

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    very hard to boot over 530 ??

    2x q9650 545fsb windows booted + validation @ 4.9ghz on air.. no easytune


    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=422821


    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=434280

    1.2125vid: lower vcore @ higher temps
    1.2500vid: higher vcore @ lower temps

    both air cooled by the same ifx14

    havent checked but i think its still the wr on air
    Awesome! The DQ6 can do this? Does it have LLC? Would like to try it but didn't know it was as good for quads. This is the p45 and not the x48 correct? If this is the case I may have to try one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    dont worry mate im not attacking oc nub

    just wanted to show that a good mobo/right voltages and settings.. high clocks can be booted even on air.. thats all

    ---

    i just checked the q9650 wrs: http://www.ripping.org/database.php?cpuid=851

    so mr. hoss331 here claims that his best clock 4958.98 is on air ??

    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=509199

    lying lamearse bastard.. you water/freezing water cooling (you said it yourself) and then you claim "air"

    good luck with your bulls{}t
    Are you kidding me, your getting worked up over nothing. Calm down killer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss331 View Post
    Just because I use water now doesnt mean its always been on water, ive just seen the light. You seem pretty defensive over what was a simple question.
    Maybe you didnt understand this well but it means, yes I currently use water now, but I DID NOT a few months ago. I switched over to water in mid MAY and if your so concerned about it I can probably find the receipts for you. That validation WAS done on air (S1283 w/FM123 fan) on February 16th, 3 months before I had any water parts. I havent even tried for a higher clock on the 9650 or 3380 for that matter since the water setup has been put on. Again, you need to calm down.
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    Anyone know why I get a rejection from CPUZ? I submit a 4851mhz oc and get this email:


    I cannot boot in w7-64 at these clocks so i use et6 to go up.
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    Ok so I boot up at normal 4500mhz, try and validate and get another reject. WTF am I doing wrong? Prime blend 10hrs 4500mhz but fail CPUZ lol?

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    Ive heard sometimes win7 will cause it so try it in vista or xp if you have them. My xeon always got rejected no matter what clock it was at in vista and win7, havent tried in xp yet though.
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    Don't have an install of xp or vista. May have to install to get validated. In version 1.52 the "Validation" Is grayed out. I guess it is w7 causing the problem.

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    If you get the final 1.52 "validate" is not greyed out. Maybe its not win7 or atleast not 7600, just tried the xeon and it validated for the first time.
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    Thanks guys , works now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
    very hard to boot over 530 ??

    2x q9650 545fsb windows booted + validation @ 4.9ghz on air.. no easytune

    1.2125vid: lower vcore @ higher temps
    1.2500vid: higher vcore @ lower temps

    both air cooled by the same ifx14

    havent checked but i think its still the wr on air
    Your air cooling kicks my water "coolings" A**.

    4.9Ghz idle will be around 60C and with any load it goes straight to 80-90C+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluemeanie1 View Post
    Your air cooling kicks my water "coolings" A**.

    4.9Ghz idle will be around 60C and with any load it goes straight to 80-90C+.
    same here but just managed to boot at 4815 not more, idles at 50+ you can see it on my screen i posted lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptiK View Post
    Ok fair enough, I shouldn't have said "that's what intel state". I should have said "that's what it appears to mean in my opinion".



    So it's your 'job' to quash 'rumors'? Interesting reason to frequent a forum. No, I have not created a rumor. A rumor is not a rumor until misinformation has been passed between multiple individuals/circulates from person to person. I made a statement that you disagree with. If you are going to be descriptive at least be accurate. Hypocrisy and exaggeration will not help you here. While I'm taking my basic EE classes, you might like to take some classes of your own, after which you may be able to communicate more clearly.



    "So please don't elude the conversation to other relevant subjects" doesn't quite make sense. If you do mean "elude" then no, I did not escape the conversation to other topics (I actually drew a relevant topic into the conversation), and if you mean "allude", which makes somewhat more sense, what I referenced was relevant and I am well within my rights to do so. If you want to avoid embarrassment yourself, speaking properly and making sense whilst making criticisms would be a start.

    The Vcc vs Icc figure note "Adherence to this loadline specification is required to ensure reliable processor operation", to me, appears to echo the earlier statement of "Within functional operation limits, functionality and long-term reliability can be expected". I didn't say that was a fact, I said it was my opinion, which I believe you said earlier was welcome. So what, before it was, and now it's not?



    Again, I made those statements for which you call me "helplessly clueless" and clearly said they were my opinion, which in your own words, I'm entitled to have. What a difference to your opinion 2 minutes makes.

    As I said earlier, I made that statement as a short answer to give a guideline (made with interpretation or not) to a guy asking for an approximate safe upper limit.

    I think it's in everyone's best interests if we leave this here. There is nothing more to be gained from further discussion.
    Whoa there! I already quashed your false statements down one after another on technical ground and also got you to admit your mistake, so what's the yapping about?

    Having trouble handling the truth? I described precisely what you're doing: fleeing from one defeated subject to another. Can't tell what you pulled was all irrelevant? Well finish your EE classes first by listening and learning than yapping! And now you want to pick up yet another fight after having lost all the technical debates, but c'mon, in English writing? How relevant is that to this topic and this thread? You just added more evidence to my precise description above.

    So what's next after your English writing fight? Are you gonna argue "My dad is better than your dad"? How far off-topic do you want to drag this thread down? Looks like you're not only a rumor maker, you're a troll! You see, you just repeatedly proved you're helplessly clueless as you don't even know what forum you're trolling around yet you troll no matter what.

    A rumor is a rumor. You showed that you loved fabricating it and enjoyed sharing it among your circle. Now, you don't see your baby rumor circulating anymore that's probably because I have effectively killed it at its early stage. Feeling disappointed? Don't worry, with your special talent I'm sure you will have no problem fabricating tons more for the rest of your life. Keep up the good work.

    And geez, do you even have an iota of idea of what a datasheet is? Datasheet and Specs are the type of documents written to offer clear-cut and unquestionable info for the targeted designers to directly follow or comply, with the least possible amount of confusion or room for interpretation. They are not meant for open debate, as you either understand these documents or you don't! Since you've shown much trouble "interpreting" statements from such document, that only means you don't have the required knowledge to understand the datasheet at all!

    Now, the fact that you don't have the knowledge to understand the Intel datasheet, and yet you still brazenly made false assertion which you claimed coming directly from Intel, constitutes lying and that makes you an impostor as well. Liar or impostor's opinion is not welcome here. And they are not entitled to misinforming or misleading the public, either.

    No wonder you can't tell what's relevant and what's irrelevant to this subject, as you essentially can't read the datasheet. As an impostor who would do whatever just so you can "sound smart" on a technical board, you have been exposed miserably. Stop wasting everyone's time and the forum resource here. You're pissing a lot of people off when they just learned what they took from you was all but false info - an apology is overdue for them. It's in everyone's best interest if you stop posting baseless crap and stop trolling. And you'd better hope that you won't die of quack doctor seeing what you have done in life.

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    deep breath! geeee, well written.

    Quote Originally Posted by vws View Post
    Whoa there! I already quashed your false statements down one after another on technical ground and also got you to admit your mistake, so what's the yapping about?

    Having trouble handling the truth? I described precisely what you're doing: fleeing from one defeated subject to another. Can't tell what you pulled was all irrelevant? Well finish your EE classes first by listening and learning than yapping! And now you want to pick up yet another fight after having lost all the technical debates, but c'mon, in English writing? How relevant is that to this topic and this thread? You just added more evidence to my precise description above.

    So what's next after your English writing fight? Are you gonna argue "My dad is better than your dad"? How far off-topic do you want to drag this thread down? Looks like you're not only a rumor maker, you're a troll! You see, you just repeatedly proved you're helplessly clueless as you don't even know what forum you're trolling around yet you troll no matter what.

    A rumor is a rumor. You showed that you loved fabricating it and enjoyed sharing it among your circle. Now, you don't see your baby rumor circulating anymore that's probably because I have effectively killed it at its early stage. Feeling disappointed? Don't worry, with your special talent I'm sure you will have no problem fabricating tons more for the rest of your life. Keep up the good work.

    And geez, do you even have an iota of idea of what a datasheet is? Datasheet and Specs are the type of documents written to offer clear-cut and unquestionable info for the targeted designers to directly follow or comply, with the least possible amount of confusion or room for interpretation. They are not meant for open debate, as you either understand these documents or you don't! Since you've shown much trouble "interpreting" statements from such document, that only means you don't have the required knowledge to understand the datasheet at all!

    Now, the fact that you don't have the knowledge to understand the Intel datasheet, and yet you still brazenly made false assertion which you claimed coming directly from Intel, constitutes lying and that makes you an impostor as well. Liar or impostor's opinion is not welcome here. And they are not entitled to misinforming or misleading the public, either.

    No wonder you can't tell what's relevant and what's irrelevant to this subject, as you essentially can't read the datasheet. As an impostor who would do whatever just so you can "sound smart" on a technical board, you have been exposed miserably. Stop wasting everyone's time and the forum resource here. You're pissing a lot of people off when they just learned what they took from you was all but false info - an apology is overdue for them. It's in everyone's best interest if you stop posting baseless crap and stop trolling. And you'd better hope that you won't die of quack doctor seeing what you have done in life.
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