GT300 new leaks?

[Barys]

1. GDDR5 memory

2.use 512-bit memory bus

3. To provide 280 GB / sec bandwidth of about (higher than RV870)

4. GM is now calculated to be 2.2 times higher than the GT200

5.1700MHz frequency shader

Bold guess 6.die size

Source:
http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Well, seems like some new info about GT300.
2.2X faster than GTX280? If true that would be an another great GPU from NVIDIA I wonder if there will be some major architecture improvements and changes too.

Regards

[TheCarLessDriven]

you mean 2x faster than GTX 285?

[zanzabar]

you mean 2x faster than GTX 285?

285 is a gt200b, and i would guess that its in flops not performance

thees are the same rumors from before

[SmaKKed]

Sounds and looks good on paper , time will tell

[Oberon]

I wonder how they came about that 2.2x figure? Peak throughput?

[Smartidiot89]

I wonder how they came about that 2.2x figure? Peak throughput?

My guess would be Gflops, or that the GT300 has 512 SPs compared to GT200 240?

2.2x faster than GTX285 could be true on paper now show it in practice and perfect driversupport

[Barys]

If this info is true then YES.

[Pontos]

512 bits memory bus? That means it will be expensive...

And if the claims that it's faster than the RV870 are true, then we will have another gen with slower but cheaper ATI cards against faster but more expensive Nvidia cards...

[Dainas]

512 bits memory bus? That means it will be expensive...

And if the claims that it's faster than the RV870 are true, then we will have another gen with slower but cheaper ATI cards against faster but more expensive Nvidia cards...

Hit the nail on the head, it is fun seeing people go crazy in hope of ATI finally breaking the status quo though. All known hints scream more of the same from both teams. Every time half the forums scream that ATI is going to blow up the performance crown, and every time Nvidia nips back the crown.

[FischOderAal]

Good I wish NVIDIA that GT300 is a success and they don't get surprised by the green team again

Hit the nail on the head, it is fun seeing people go crazy in hope of ATI finally breaking the status quo though. All known hints scream more of the same from both teams. Every time half the forums scream that ATI is going to blow up the performance crown, and every time Nvidia nips back the crown.

Who cares if NVIDIA's chip is 10 percent faster but costs twice as much to make? (I'm exaggerating.) The performance crown is good for reputation (and a bit sales figures of the slower cards, where the real money is made) but not necessarily for NVIDIA's wallet And for a company, money is usually more important than reputation

That being said, my humble opinion is that GT300 might be the last big monolithic GPU made by NVIDIA. ATI's way is wiser from the business POV.

[Talonman]

Big monolithic are fun though...

[Chumbucket843]

Good I wish NVIDIA that GT300 is a success and they don't get surprised by the green team again



Who cares if NVIDIA's chip is 10 percent faster but costs twice as much to make? (I'm exaggerating.) The performance crown is good for reputation (and a bit sales figures of the slower cards, where the real money is made) but not necessarily for NVIDIA's wallet And for a company, money is usually more important than reputation

That being said, my humble opinion is that GT300 might be the last big monolithic GPU made by NVIDIA. ATI's way is wiser from the business POV.

how could higher margins make them less money? also upholding a reputation like being socially responsible is a very important of business. for the making money part you cant say nvidia going in the wrong direction. have you heard of tegra? the mobile mark is a cash cow because lap tops are cute and trendy.

[turbox997]

Maybe...just maybe... we can finally play Crysis now!!


sorry I couldn't resist, although I'm semi-serious... it's about time that the hardware keeps up with the software.

[Biker]

60 fps Crysis @ 2560 x 1600 with eye candy maxed would be nice (and about a year too late for me)

[Hornet331]

60 fps Crysis @ 2560 x 1600 with eye candy maxed would be nice (and about a year too late for me)

Only with quad sli.

[RPGWiZaRD]

2.2x figure would prolly be the theoretical throughput which certainly differs from the practical gain, maybe 70~90% even.

Anyway any1 else besides me have a strong feeling of history repeating like GT200 vs RV770, except I think nvidia will have slightly faster cards than last time.

September, HD 5870 for $299 (and HD 5850 for $199?) is launched that provides 30~50% gain over HD 4890 and will be the fastest single gpu card, may lead to slight price adjustments of other cards for especially nvidia but maybe also ati. Relatively energy efficient cards with great performance/power/cost factor.

Early/mid December, NVIDIA launches the new GT300 single gpu monster with huge power consumption but will have like 70~90% gain over GTX285 but at a price of $599~650. But very few cards will be in stock but hey Santa needs to get a few cards for xmas so the kids won't cry. Real stockage will grow in January. At same time ATI releases HD 5870 X2 to give the new GT300 single gpu card a run for it's money @ $499. This will eventually lead to some price reduction for nvidia and eventually release the dual gpu solution to more specificly point out the so called "performance crown" as they used to talk about a few years ago (yay). ATI then releases quite shortly after (maybe half year after GT300 launch or so) a refresh series with higher clocks with a bit higher performance and some tweaks due to the prices of HD58xx series have become so low at this point and to remain more competitive again (although HD 58xx series have sold well anyway) as ATI knows this is the pricerange were most money is spent.

Just for the luls, have to remember this statement if it actually would turn true. :p

Why do I think a similiar scenario will happen? Because both parts seems to be happy like this when they don't fight each other, they stick to different segments so both parts will get sales, playing safe. Of course this doesn't mean it would be less competition, it would look silly if ATI suddenly would match NVIDIA in performance at a totally different price segments (NVIDIA has beefier cards meant to be sold at a higher price cuz of the higher cost). It's a lot smaller chance of complete disaster this way than directly competing against each other in the entire price segment.

[Oberon]

2.2x figure would prolly be the theoretical throughput which certainly differs from the practical gain, maybe 70~90% even.

I'm not going to put too much stock in that value, then, personally. RV770 has higher peak throughput than GT200 when considering MADD instructions, but that doesn't translate into better performance in most cases.

[Stukov]

2.2x figure would prolly be the theoretical throughput which certainly differs from the practical gain, maybe 70~90% even.

Anyway any1 else besides me have a strong feeling of history repeating like GT200 vs RV770, except I think nvidia will have slightly faster cards than last time.

September, HD 5870 for $299 (and HD 5850 for $199?) is launched that provides 30~50% gain over HD 4890 and will be the fastest single gpu card, may lead to slight price adjustments of other cards for especially nvidia but maybe also ati. Relatively energy efficient cards with great performance/power/cost factor.

Early/mid December, NVIDIA launches the new GT300 single gpu monster with huge power consumption but will have like 70~90% gain over GTX285 but at a price of $599~650. But very few cards will be in stock but hey Santa needs to get a few cards for xmas so the kids won't cry. Real stockage will grow in January. At same time ATI releases HD 5870 X2 to give the new GT300 single gpu card a run for it's money @ $499. This will eventually lead to some price reduction for nvidia and eventually release the dual gpu solution to more specificly point out the so called "performance crown" as they used to talk about a few years ago (yay). ATI then releases quite shortly after (maybe half year after GT300 launch or so) a refresh series with higher clocks with a bit higher performance and some tweaks due to the prices of HD58xx series have become so low at this point and to remain more competitive again (although HD 58xx series have sold well anyway) as ATI knows this is the pricerange were most money is spent.

Just for the luls, have to remember this statement if it actually would turn true. :p

Why do I think a similiar scenario will happen? Because both parts seems to be happy like this when they don't fight each other, they stick to different segments so both parts will get sales, playing safe. Of course this doesn't mean it would be less competition, it would look silly if ATI suddenly would match NVIDIA in performance at a totally different price segments (NVIDIA has beefier cards meant to be sold at a higher price cuz of the higher cost). It's a lot smaller chance of complete disaster this way than directly competing against each other in the entire price segment.

Sorry, but the X2 version of whatever is going to either launch same day, or few months later. It will most likely already be out before Nvidia has GT300 out.

Also, AMD has been really tight lipped about the Evergreen family, launch is sometime in September and we don't have rock solid rumors yet, so I'm pretty impressed with that.

We must not forget that AMD/ATI has been working on a MCM graphics chip, I'm not saying the RV870 series is going to offer that as R800, but it sure might. Instead of dual GPU cards with separate memory we might see an MCM chip sharing memory and actually not require any driver work as separate chips (as it is dual die single chip). If that is the case we may see an X4 depending on the size of each die.

[Andrew LB]

Maybe...just maybe... we can finally play Crysis now!!


sorry I couldn't resist, although I'm semi-serious... it's about time that the hardware keeps up with the software.

Seriously though... that joke is getting old.

I play Crysis just fine @ 1920x1200 with 8xAA and 8xAF with everything on "Very High".

.... until i'm in the snow.

Not bad for a GTX-285.

[003]

I play Crysis just fine @ 1920x1200 with 8xAA and 8xAF with everything on "Very High".

No, you don't. Perhaps you enjoy 15-20fps, I don't know. But I certainly do not. As a general rule, I like my minimum framerate to not dip below 60 in FPS games.

[Bodkin]

No, you don't. Perhaps you enjoy 15-20fps, I don't know. But I certainly do not. As a general rule, I like my minimum framerate to not dip below 60 in FPS games.

+1. This

[[XC] hipno650]

No, you don't. Perhaps you enjoy 15-20fps, I don't know. But I certainly do not. As a general rule, I like my minimum framerate to not dip below 60 in FPS games.

to be honest it is not all that hard to get good performance in crysis. I built a system for a buddy of mine using an overclocked i7 (to over 4ghz) and a pair of 1Gb 4870's in crossfire and it runs crysis (warhead) like a champ, Everything set to very high and 8xAA at 1920x1080 runs anyware between 20-60fps normally around 30-40fps. now normally i agree that anything below 60fps is not fun to use but cryengine 2 seems to run smoother at lower frame rates than most other engines (i think anyways although you can still kinda tell) i am willing to bet if you had a high clocked i7 and 3 overclocked GTX 285's in TRI SLI that you could get around 60fps min frames with the settings he mentioned. SLI does scale much much better in Crysis than crossfire does

[Andrew LB]

No, you don't. Perhaps you enjoy 15-20fps, I don't know. But I certainly do not. As a general rule, I like my minimum framerate to not dip below 60 in FPS games.

Call BS all you want. I average a solid 40fps all the way up till you get into the ice... then things get crappy.

Here is a screenshot just to make you go away.

Have a nice day.

[Andrew LB]

Edit: Perhaps having this fresh install of Windows 7 Ultimate RTM x64 has helped the frame rates some. Obviously not enough to go from 15-20 like you claim, to a consistent 40-50 like I get. I used to get 15-20 with these same settings when using 2x 8800gts 640mb cards in SLI. So go figure.

[NapalmV5]

i hope they stick to 512-bit and ill pay top dollar for it!!

bring on that 512-bit gddr5 goodness

2x the performance?? you had me @ 512-bit gddr5