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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2 View Post
    You my find this of some serious use
    http://www.overclock.net/peltiers-te...bout-tecs.html

    oh and here's a calculator so you dont have to do the number . it's not perfect but it'll give you an idea
    http://watercooling.co.nz/node/60

    It certainly seems to me that you shouldn't have been commenting on ChillerZero system since you clearly dont know enough to make that judgement call ?
    Well, to be honest, the part I don't know is temperature affecting Qc, and it has really not that much to do with ChillerZero's setup. Because the assumption i was taking is the hot side of TEC being properly cooled, and it is a fact seen from ChillerZero's MCW-6500 setup. Also, we did see his CPU temp was at -10c when idle, and the increased heat from full load changed the temp to 30c. Though I can not be 100% sure on his rig, but one thing I can be sure is i7's TDP since I digged through all the spec documents and did calculations on my own. The error margin I used was pretty high, and no matter how hard i tried to inflated the TDP number, an i7 shall never exceed 360W TDP running at 5 Ghz with 1.6V Vcore (for 360W TDP, the i7 will need to draw at least 360W electricity from ATX power supply, and it is unlikely). Those 2 numbers are already insanely high. So Gabe's proposal is legit given that if his MCW7000-T could really cool the hot side fast enough.

    Also, regarding ChillerZero, we all saw is he's pretty hardcore now running to phase change cooling. So one thing we can assume is, it is unlikely he lied on the 226W (192W actual on 320W PSU) TEC cooling part. He used a not so powerful 50mm TEC on his MCW-6500 was just taking a blind shot, but somehow it worked, lol. However though, using a 50mm TEC by him is a pretty damn good choice. You know, one of the TEC factory I called in mainland here from China confirmed they have 50mm TECs that with 199 couples can do 24.1V with 28A, 675W, and that's a whooping 405W Qc converted. In conjunction with a 1000W PSU (i could only find 600W or 1000W, no in between), and if we could cool the TEC's hot side at 50s while full load (edit: it should be 30s, not 50s, giving if i7 pump out 200W heat, and TEC being 100% efficient at 405W), we might be to able to get sub zero. IMHO using 62mm TEC is not optimum, as the extra space not covering the CPU die went to waste (even with large copper plate). Smaller TEC and cold plate are always more effective, but the hot side will be harder to cool. On the other hand, the pity part though, is the factory i called won't sell it to me unless i order them in min quantity of 100, lol, bastards.

    After all, like I said before, this whole original thread is Gabe announcing MCW-7000T block, and we all want to see if that's a dud, right? For me, i am a firm believer it will work
    Last edited by duckbillclinton; 08-17-2009 at 02:46 AM.

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