Forum Vs Naplam - Fasted real world storage solution

**XS Janus** · 08-05-2009, 01:24 PM

SteveRo: maybe you could setup 4xMtrons in R0 and do a similar .bat file, Napalm did, with lots of apps you have at your disposal and time that on ich10 and areca.
Also timing any software being installet from a .iso image on the array should also be indicative of its real time performances.

If you have the time, making a >2GB folder with songs and pictures and coping it on the array should give us real life R/W performance. Just make it bigger than you cache.
Coping the large video file like HD movie or something similar should give us results on how big files are being handled.

Same tests using lets say 3xacards would be interesting to!

Oh and those test you posted above... it looks to me that in AS SSD bench, where it measures iso, game and program times, ICH is continuously faster.
With that in mind doing the test I mentioned above should prove an interesting exercise.

Thanks!

**SteveRo** · 08-05-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Sorry to hijack Napalm's thread but SteveRo do you plan to test these any time soon: LSI MegaRAID 9260?

I am watching the other thread, getting ready to go on vaca.

**SteveRo** · 08-05-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by XS Janus

SteveRo: maybe you could setup 4xMtrons in R0 and do a similar .bat file, Napalm did, with lots of apps you have at your disposal and time that on ich10 and areca.
Also timing any software being installet from a .iso image on the array should also be indicative of its real time performances.

If you have the time, making a >2GB folder with songs and pictures and coping it on the array should give us real life R/W performance. Just make it bigger than you cache.
Coping the large video file like HD movie or something similar should give us results on how big files are being handled.

Same tests using lets say 3xacards would be interesting to!

Oh and those test you posted above... it looks to me that in AS SSD bench, where it measures iso, game and program times, ICH is continuously faster.
With that in mind doing the test I mentioned above should prove an interesting exercise.

Thanks!

I will do the 2GB+ test when I have some time - probably Friday.

**XS Janus** · 08-05-2009, 03:40 PM

**F.E.A.R.** · 08-06-2009, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by SteveRo

I will do the 2GB+ test when I have some time - probably Friday.

You can use "FC-Test"...
This app writes files in realtime to your drive. (not like a bench)
It simulates 5 scenarios.

Or you can scan a directory (game, progr etc.) to create a new, personal pattern.With this pattern you can simulate writes of the game/progr/anything.

Or you merge the content of the 5 included patterns to a big pattern (very easy). So you can write ~ 5.6GB of many very small and some big files at one go

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/sto...est.html#sect3

You can find the beta (i think the one and only from 2004) on russian sites.
Version 0.3 is from 2002. Ooooold!!! But good...

@ XS Janus

You´re watching too much simpsons

**NapalmV5** · 08-06-2009, 10:31 PM

well i didnt want to put the 24x samsung ssd awesomeness to shame with 4x jmicrons but you guys left me no choice.. vid response to that awesomeness cometh shortly

**NapalmV5** · 08-07-2009, 12:21 AM

vid response posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs

direct link to vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBKB2NndbI

vid response available if/when awesomeness guys approve

106-app.bat + COD4 loadup on top of 129 running processes

start "" "C:\Apps\ATTObench32.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\Core Temp.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\cpuz.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\CUDA-Z-0.4.74.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\cwshredder.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\DiskMark.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\fctest.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\Fritz Chess Benchmark.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\HiJackThis.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\NiBiTor.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\oZone3D_SurfaceDeformer_Benchmark.exe "
start "" "C:\Apps\RBE_121.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\RootkitBuster.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\super_pi_mod.exe"
start "" "C:\Apps\TeamViewer_Setup.exe"
start "" "C:\Cinebench10\Cinebench10.exe"
start "" "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\7-Zip\7zFM.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Areca Technology Corp\Http Proxy Server Service\ArcHttpSrvGUI.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Avant Browser\avant.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avgnt.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avcenter.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avconfig.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\CCleaner\CCleaner.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD9\PowerDVD9.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Defraggler\Defraggler.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\DivX\DivX Codec\config.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\DivX\DivX Converter\DivX Converter.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\DivX\DivX Player\DivX Player.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\DVD Shrink\DVD Shrink 3.2.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\EVGA Precision\EVGAPrecision.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\FastStone Photo Resizer\FSResizer.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Flock\flock.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\foobar2000\foobar2000.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\bin\gimp-2.6.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\bin\gimp-console-2.6.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\HT OMEGA CLARO\Advance\DLL\CmiCnfgP.cpl"
start "" "C:\Program Files\ImgBurn\ImgBurn.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\ImgBurn\ImgBurnPreview.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Iometer.org\Iometer 2006.07.27\Iometer.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Lightsmark 2008\bin\win32\Lightsmark2008.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\MadOnion.com\3DMark2001 SE\3DMark2001SE.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\nLite\nLite.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\scalc.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\sdraw.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\simpress.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\smath.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\sweb.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\swriter.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Opera 10 Beta\opera.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\RivaTuner v2.24\RivaTuner.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Safari\Safari.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\uTorrent\uTorrent.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Winamp\winamp.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\wordpad.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Wise Registry Cleaner\WiseRegistryCleaner.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\YahooMessenger.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\appwiz.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\bootvrfy.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\calc.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmdlib.wsc"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\compmgmt.msc"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\control.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\desk.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\devmgmt.msc"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\dfrg.msc"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\diskmgmt.msc"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\diskpart.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\dxdiag.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\fsmgmt.msc"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\hdwwiz.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetcpl.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\intl.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\label.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\main.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\mmc.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\mmsys.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\mplay32.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msconfig.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msiexec.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\mspaint.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\notepad.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntimage.gif"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcplui.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\powercfg.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\regedt32.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\sc.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.msc"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\sigverif.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\sndvol32.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\sysdm.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\timedate.cpl"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\verifier.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\winver.exe"
start "" "C:\WINDOWS\system32\wmimgmt.msc"

the very same system i posted vids of earlier.. all air cooled q9650/ep45 extreme

**karbonkid** · 08-07-2009, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

vid response posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs

direct link to vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBKB2NndbI

vid response available if/when awesomeness guys approve

106-app.bat + COD4 loadup on top of 129 running processes

the very same system i posted vids of earlier.. all air cooled q9650/ep45 extreme

Heh.. somehow I don't think the Samsung folks will accept an awesomer response to their awesomeness...

Nice one

**NapalmV5** · 08-07-2009, 03:52 AM

thanks.. yeh all this time 0 vid responses.. i agree it aint gonna happen.. so much for youtube

**One_Hertz** · 08-07-2009, 05:26 AM

I'll give it a shot as soon as I stop killing motherboards and get a working PC (

). Btw your COD4 loads in exactly the same time as mine in that last video. I am guessing it is because you ran out of ram?

**Ao1** · 08-07-2009, 02:23 PM

I'm impressed.

The initialisation time is not that bad either. I’d guess about a 1/4 to a 1/3rd of the time it takes an adaptec to initialise.

**Rhys** · 08-07-2009, 03:58 PM

Napalm...... Looks like you answered us nay sayers!
Ok now I can accept the awesomeness of your Areca

Good job! Sorry for ever doubting you!

**NapalmV5** · 08-07-2009, 10:15 PM

"awesomeness" and napalming awesomeness.. diff no ?

**Darth_Penguin** · 08-08-2009, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

vid response posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs

direct link to vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBKB2NndbI

vid response available if/when awesomeness guys approve

106-app.bat + COD4 loadup on top of 129 running processes

the very same system i posted vids of earlier.. all air cooled q9650/ep45 extreme

Congrats on shutting everyone up.

**NeedMoMegaHurtZ** · 08-08-2009, 06:04 AM

Nice work Napalm! That is awesomeness! I was ROFL at you closing the apps 1 by 1

**NapalmV5** · 08-08-2009, 09:27 AM

thanks guys

lol exhausting

finally had the time to update all vidz with audio/song tracks by various artists..

**NapalmV5** · 08-10-2009, 06:53 AM

40-app loadup/378mb download:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3OR2JU7S

torrent: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b...5965eaa7bc68bc
torrent: http://drop.io/grddbls

download
unzip
readme
carry on

what the 40-app loadup.rar contains:

readme.doc
40-app.txt
7z465.exe
absetup.exe
AdbeRdr910_Lite_en_US-9.1.0.29.exe
avira_antivir_personal_en.exe
ccsetup222_slim.exe
chrome_installer.exe
DivXInstaller.exe
dvdshrink32setup.exe
Firefox Setup 3.5.2.exe
flock-2.5.1.en-US.win32.exe
foobar2000_0.9.6.8.exe
FSResizerSetup28.exe
gimp-2.6.6-i686-setup.exe
iometer-2006.07.27.win32.i386-setup.exe
msgr9us.exe
OOo_3.1.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
Opera_1000_en_b2_Setup.exe
RivaTuner224.exe
SafariSetup.exe
seamonkey-1.1.17.en-US.win32.installer.exe
SetupImgBurn_2.5.0.0.exe
SkypeSetupFull.exe
vlc-1.0.0-win32.exe
winamp556_full_emusic-7plus_en-us.exe
wrar39b5.exe
WRC4Free.exe

what the 40-app.txt contains:

start "" "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\7-Zip\7zFM.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Avant Browser\avant.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avgnt.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avcenter.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avconfig.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\CCleaner\CCleaner.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\DivX\DivX Codec\config.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\DivX\DivX Converter\DivX Converter.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\DivX\DivX Player\DivX Player.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\DVD Shrink\DVD Shrink 3.2.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\FastStone Photo Resizer\FSResizer.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Flock\flock.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\foobar2000\foobar2000.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\bin\gimp-2.6.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\bin\gimp-console-2.6.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\ImgBurn\ImgBurn.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\ImgBurn\ImgBurnPreview.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Iometer.org\Iometer 2006.07.27\Iometer.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\scalc.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\sdraw.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\simpress.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\smath.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\sweb.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 3\program\swriter.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Opera 10 Beta\opera.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\RivaTuner v2.24\RivaTuner.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Safari\Safari.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Winamp\winamp.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\wordpad.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Wise Registry Cleaner\WiseRegistryCleaner.exe"
start "" "C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\YahooMessenger.exe"

what the readme.doc contains:

- install all the apps within the folder.. skip on the ones you have already installed

- open 40-app.txt

- edit/replace directory with your C:\ directory or leave as is if no different

- save as 40-app.bat

- reboot pc

- run 40-app.bat

- time the loadup best you can

note: install ccleaner last and disable/delete* startup programs (you have just installed) @ Tools > Startup
ex: avgnt.exe

* dont disable/delete your video/sound/neccesary startup programs

this aint your fav one click benchmark gotta put a bit of time and effort into but itll give you a better/real indication where your system/storage is @.. no benchmark can do real apps

then move on up by adding more apps.. add more apps from your windows system folder.. as many as you want.. as many your system can chew

i gotta upload the file to a better site.. any suggestions?

**karbonkid** · 08-10-2009, 07:21 AM

I use www.drop.io - it's more of an advanced general hosting solution than jst a simple file hoster but i like it very much

**Boogerlad** · 08-10-2009, 07:39 AM

Thanks napalm!

**Ao1** · 08-10-2009, 07:46 AM

It would be nice if there was a programe like Win bootup that works in the background and records how long apps/games take to load. I'm guessing this would not be an impossible task to do? Maybe it already exists? It would be a lot easier than copying files, creating bat files, stop watches etc?

napalms awesomeness indictor.exe?

**NapalmV5** · 08-10-2009, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by karbonkid

I use www.drop.io - it's more of an advanced general hosting solution than jst a simple file hoster but i like it very much

378mb file allowed ? i see 100mb limit

**karbonkid** · 08-10-2009, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

378mb file allowed ? i see 100mb limit

ah. In that case, sorry...

Do you have any PCs on 24/7? Maybe torrent it?

**NapalmV5** · 08-10-2009, 09:17 AM

alright..

torrent: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b...5965eaa7bc68bc

torrent: http://drop.io/grddbls

**NapalmV5** · 08-10-2009, 09:44 AM

ok just torrent^ and you guys can download all the apps individually.. or just the ones you need to download to complete the the 40-app loadup

this is just a kickoff/to get you guys started on this.. you guys can include/exclude apps whatnot

how far and wide you guys want to take it to its up to you

**jcool** · 08-10-2009, 10:04 AM

Awesome Napalm! Which Jmicron SLCs are you using exactly? (brand)
I'll be getting a few Intel G2's shortly, pretty interested in running that app loading bench of yours.

Init time of the Areca really isn't that bad, I counted roughly 21 seconds + 5s that you can cancel... My Adaptec 5405 takes 45s kernel init + 8 array init = 53s total.. that's why it went in the server lol.

Fastest init I know of are the Highpoints BTW, the 3510/3520 takes only 7-8s

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