OCZ 8500 Low-Voltage Blade

[zsamz_]

What exactly do you expect? How do you think binning works?

binning sets that barely hit rated speeds is

[-n7-]

binning sets that barely hit rated speeds is

Actually that's precisely what a lot of the big RAM names do, especially G.Skill.
Not saying i like it, but you're making it sound like it's something foreign, when all the manufacturers do it.

[RyderOCZ]

Yea... there is a great idea, let's make sure every kit runs 1300 and then sell them as 1066.

[deadman'sclick]

Yea... there is a great idea, let's make sure every kit runs 1300 and then sell them as 1066.

just to ask my question again, as u might hav missed it with zsamz telling u how to run ur company.

so if i bought sum blade 9200's they are very lightly gonna hit 1200mhz but not above?

the reason im asking is i only want 1200mhz, since this is how ive been running my current reapers at for ages.

im happy with my current clocks/setting & just wanted the upgrade from 2x 1gb to 2x 2gb. but dont wanna upgrade to larger chips if i cant hit 1200mhz still.

so am i looking for pot luck wether the 9200's will hit 1200mhz? as i only really want ocz ram not another brand.

thanks again

deadman

[RyderOCZ]

There is no way I can guarantee 9200's to run 9600 speeds. It will be luck of the draw like any overclocking.

[18 is # 1]

What's really funny is that a little over a year ago, nobody was thinking about 2x2GB kits hitting 1200.

[BeepBeep2]

What's really funny is that a little over a year ago, nobody was thinking about 2x2GB kits hitting 1200.

Which is why there is no reason why people (not you) should complain that a $80 set of 4GB PC2-9600 or PC2-9200 ram will "only do" 1250 Mhz @ 1.85v.

Of course, that $140 set can do 1300 Mhz @ 2.15v.

Bang for the buck:
G.Skill Pi: 9.2857 Mhz per dollar. @ (OC) 1300 Mhz 2.15-2.25v
OCZ PC2-9200: 15 Mhz per dollar @ (OC) 1200 Mhz 1.80-1.90v

Then, people are complaining about tight binning...DDR2-1066 is supposed to do 1066. When a company has to make room for higher end chips such as 1150 and 1200 kits they are going to *try* not to sell 1066 that does anything above 1150 or 1150 that does at least 1200. It's common sense.

[18 is # 1]

Which is why there is no reason why people (not you) should complain that a $80 set of 4GB PC2-9600 or PC2-9200 ram will "only do" 1250 Mhz @ 1.85v.

Of course, that $140 set can do 1300 Mhz @ 2.15v.

Bang for the buck:
G.Skill Pi: 9.2857 Mhz per dollar. @ (OC) 1300 Mhz 2.15-2.25v
OCZ PC2-9200: 15 Mhz per dollar @ (OC) 1200 Mhz 1.80-1.90v

Then, people are complaining about tight binning...DDR2-1066 is supposed to do 1066. When a company has to make room for higher end chips such as 1150 and 1200 kits they are going to *try* not to sell 1066 that does anything above 1150 or 1150 that does at least 1200. It's common sense.

How about the 1066 LV Plats for $46 http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-PC2-8500-P...f=pd_rhf_p_t_1
1150 MHz=25 MHz per dollar

[BeepBeep2]

How about the 1066 LV Plats for $46 http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-PC2-8500-P...f=pd_rhf_p_t_1
1150 MHz=25 MHz per dollar

Usually all you get for $46 is DDR2-800 "Value" ram that runs Cas 6 DDR2-900 at best.

[Rayce185]

Well I must admit that I am a bit dumbfounded that the 1066 kit does the same 1200 timings that I can with my 9600's, but that I still can't go higher myself... but hey, at least I'm running at rated speeds

[18 is # 1]

Well I must admit that I am a bit dumbfounded that the 1066 kit does the same 1200 timings that I can with my 9600's, but that I still can't go higher myself... but hey, at least I'm running at rated speeds

It may or may not go as high as yours. Like Ryder said, it's luck of the draw. But I have yet to hear of a LV set that didn't hit 1150. In fact most if not all hit 1170.

[BeepBeep2]

Man, I've got some issues. I'm too lazy to test individual sticks in memtest I guess.

Had 8 errors after 2 hours the other day, and no matter what I throw at these things I can't go over 1115. But then, my CPU is flaky so I can't make a judgement.

[18 is # 1]

Man, I've got some issues. I'm too lazy to test individual sticks in memtest I guess.

Had 8 errors after 2 hours the other day, and no matter what I throw at these things I can't go over 1115. But then, my CPU is flaky so I can't make a judgement.

Is your CPU running stock?
Also, I had to boost MCH with the Blades.

[BeepBeep2]

Is your CPU running stock?
Also, I had to boost MCH with the Blades.

Check my sig: (Stock is 2.8Ghz)
I've also backed off to 5-5-5-18 now, I was having alot more BSOD's on 5-5-5-10 and 5-5-5-12.
But I did drop the CPU back down to 2900 and tried to boot at 1160 (1.85v) and it hung up while posting.
Ended up reseting CMOS about 5 times that day and flashing about 3 different BIOSes.

EIDT:

"win32k.sys"

"A problem has been detected and Windows has shut down to protect"..............

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA

I'll reseat the RAM in a few minutes, it didn't feel very snug when I installed it.

[-n7-]

Don't run tRAS so low unless you are absolutely certain it's stable.

I'd suggest some HCI Memtest action to ensure this.

Two instances set to around 1000-1500 MB each till they both hit well into the few hundred % (do it overnite).

Memtest86+ is NOT a valid overclocked RAM stability test...it sometimes will miss errors that show up in HCI or LinX/IBT @ max RAM (don't run the stupid "Standard" stress test; that's a joke as it doesn't stress all your RAM.)

[zsamz_]

Yea... there is a great idea, let's make sure every kit runs 1300 and then sell them as 1066.

nah
make pc2-9600 n make sure they can do 1220
or at least 1201

[devil_mcry]

the 9600 kit can run to 1250mhz with only 1.84v, on hwupgrade two user use this kit at 1250 1.84 RS 24/7...

[OC Nub]

The only issue I have with this ram is they are limited to certain dividers, at least on my Motherboard. I have the pc9200's and they will not post at 1150 5:6 divider. Using the 4:5 divider they do fine for me. 1200mhz stable 8+ hours blend. 1182mhz 10hrs blend and IBT stable pl8 turbo. But I run a 489fsb and need 1222mhz at a 4:5 and that is not possible with this kit. So my OC is limited by the divider I have to use.

[Zeus]

How ironic to see how bad people want DDR1200 and can't even pull it off with the 9200's while my 8500 kit did it dead easy.

Seems OCZ is binning them a hell of a lot tighter now.

Come to think of it, this kit is now retired running in a non-overclockers computer at a mere DDR1066.

:hides in shame:

[18 is # 1]

The only issue I have with this ram is they are limited to certain dividers, at least on my Motherboard. .

It's because your mobo is a POS.
Oh, wait, nevermind.

[Ket]

Actually that's precisely what a lot of the big RAM names do, especially G.Skill.
Not saying i like it, but you're making it sound like it's something foreign, when all the manufacturers do it.

I think what zsamz means is that when you spend a reasonable amount on RAM, its expected you get SOME headroom, otherwise whats the point in, say, spending £70 on a set of OCZ Platinums that just barely reach their rated 1150MHz, and a cheap "no-name" PC9200 kit picked up for £45? You expect no headroom on the no-name kit. Theres also the massive degree of discomfort you get when a kit barely reaches its rated speed. In the back of your mind you will constantly be thinking [is this kit going to last or is it going to blow up?] its well known fact that regardless of voltage, anything thats pushed to the edge never lasts very long..

I just hope the £70 I just spent out on some OCZ Platinums gives me a little headroom over 1150MHz(1180MHz or so will be fine.. enough for that discomfort zone to disappear). Every time I've tried OCZ in the past they have burned me. Even the OCZ RAM cooler I use the first one I got didn't work How bloody hard is it to make sure 2 60mm fans strapped to a lump of metal work?

[-n7-]

I think what zsamz means is that when you spend a reasonable amount on RAM, its expected you get SOME headroom, otherwise whats the point in, say, spending £70 on a set of OCZ Platinums that just barely reach their rated 1150MHz, and a cheap "no-name" PC9200 kit picked up for £45? You expect no headroom on the no-name kit. Theres also the massive degree of discomfort you get when a kit barely reaches its rated speed. In the back of your mind you will constantly be thinking [is this kit going to last or is it going to blow up?] its well known fact that regardless of voltage, anything thats pushed to the edge never lasts very long..

I just hope the £70 I just spent out on some OCZ Platinums gives me a little headroom over 1150MHz(1180MHz or so will be fine.. enough for that discomfort zone to disappear). Every time I've tried OCZ in the past they have burned me. Even the OCZ RAM cooler I use the first one I got didn't work How bloody hard is it to make sure 2 60mm fans strapped to a lump of metal work?

There is some headroom.

TBH, i don't know what he's talking about.

Everyone posting results that knows what they are doing with a decent mobo has gotten a decent increase over stock, usually at least to the next speed bin or higher.

It definitely gets tighter as you get to the 1200 kits, but as they don't do all that much over 1200 (maybe 1250 range or slightly higher), that's to be expected.

For the price, i don't blame OCZ.

If they were trying to charge what G.Skill was for so long with their 1200 kits, then that'd be different, but they aren't...they forced G.Skill to bring down the pricing.

[Ket]

TBH for £70 I do EXPECT a 30MHz or so wiggle room margin. As would 99% of other people I would think. When memory kits barely reach their rated speed, its not "tight binning" per-se, its more of a manufacturers mentality to push something right to the limit out of the box then wonder why that product has such a high RMA rate.

[deadman'sclick]

well i got a kit of 9200's yesterday afternoon & ive had very little time to test but im already running at 1200mhz 5-5-5-18-56 1.87v . i will post sum everest scores etc when i get time, but i dont hav much free time atm. got a week off work but im busy doing stuff & my gf dont like me spending time mucking about with my rig when were off together.

just large fft priming atm, will post when i can.

oh & thanks for the help ryder etc

deadman

[SpuTnicK]

So finnaly PGN has 19 kits of 9600 blades at ~88$ in stock