OCZ 8500 Low-Voltage Blade

[Ket]

Ket, $140 for that G Skill kit is a lot of money but it's not a rip-off - if you want to see a ripoff, check the memoryc price for the same kit - $285

$>£= We get screwed. Just another reason why I'm glad the british economy is floundering. Prices go down, as does VAT and tax

[18 is # 1]

This thread is now #5 for most replied in the Xtreme Bandwidth section. Man you guys talk a lot.

[18 is # 1]

Well here is the reply from OCZ:

"1200's are not going to be seen soon.

Rare IC's, testing at 1200 is failing, we have to have IC's that pass to make sticks

1150's, we have about 200 kits that should be going out soon."


So I bought some GSkill 9600s....and I'm salivating.

[BeepBeep2]

What about the G*Skill Trident 1200's?
Grats on your purchase 18 is #1...

So, I guess we should be seeing alot of 1150 kit's doing 1200+...just because they can't get 1220 out of all kits to ensure 1200 doesn't mean some kit's won't do better on our motherboards...:P

[18 is # 1]

What about the G*Skill Trident 1200's?
Grats on your purchase 18 is #1...

Best guess is that they're using the same Elpida ICs as the Blades, but charging WAY more. Considering they were $5 more than the Pi, it was a no brainer. Of course, if I had based it on looks.......

[BeepBeep2]

OCZ: "G*Skill stole our good Elpida chips!"....G*Skill: "No, no, no...were going to make a profit, unlike you guys!"...OCZ: "We were already making 60%!"

[gymenii]

Well here is the reply from OCZ:

"1200's are not going to be seen soon.

Rare IC's, testing at 1200 is failing, we have to have IC's that pass to make sticks

1150's, we have about 200 kits that should be going out soon."


So I bought some GSkill 9600s....and I'm salivating.

200 failed 1200 kits packaged as 1150's

[zsamz_]

OCZ: "G*Skill stole our good Elpida chips!"....G*Skill: "No, no, no...were going to make a profit, unlike you guys!"...OCZ: "We were already making 60%!"

looks like gskills got the high binned chips
yup they both milkin the last $$$

18 is # 1: smart move the way they been binnin it looks like the best elpida are doin 1250
the best gskills with promos hit 1300 @ 2.1v

[BeepBeep2]

But what if you stick 2.1v into the Elpida?


<-----I don't care how nasty that looks.

[zsamz_]

But what if you stick 2.1v into the Elpida?


<-----I don't care how nasty that looks.

they
try it you got a set

[Don_Dan]

But what if you stick 2.1v into the Elpida?

I'm looking for those ICs on value RAM, if I ever find some I will test it. Seriously.
( Though I don't expect them to scale anyway, just to put an end to this discussion )

But for sure NOT with my OCZ!

[BeepBeep2]

they
try it you got a set

I have a feeling they won't explode. Not that I'm going above 1.85v though.


EDIT:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowIm...sktop%20Memory

If I'm not retarded those IC's say Elpida.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134641

[-n7-]

Many, many value RAM kits use Elpida.

I also see it in OEMS (HP, Dell, Acer, etc.) all the time.

You can try OCing them, but i wouldn't count on great luck.

OCZ is likely using different IC, or it's just the very best binned of all the crap.

Only value RAM ICs i've found to be pretty consistent for decent OCing is PSC.

I tried some ProMOS once (looked just like the stuff in the G.Skill Pis), & couldn't even do 1000.

[BeepBeep2]

Well, from what I heard OCZ was using Elpida's 1.8v DDR2-800 IC. (rofl) They have a DDR2-1066 one also but I've got no idea why that wouldn't clock better.

[zsamz_]

Well, from what I heard OCZ was using Elpida's 1.8v DDR2-800 IC. (rofl) They have a DDR2-1066 one also but I've got no idea why that wouldn't clock better.

these are rev D pc2-8500
the rev:C are on alot of kingston value pc2-6400 i tested a few sets and they couldnt hit 850mhz

[BeepBeep2]

these are rev pc2-8500
the rev:C are on alot of kingston value pc2-6400 i tested a few sets and they couldnt hit 850mhz

Thanks.

[Rayce185]

Here are my best results that are stable in memtest. They are the PC9600 Blades:



These DIMM's rock my pants!

I'm slightly bothered by the clock, though. It's set to 1200 in BIOS, not 1188.

[Don_Dan]

.

Finding Elpida ICs is easy... But you won't find the good stuff, the new revision like zsamz_ already mentioned.

Here are my best results that are stable in memtest. They are the PC9600 Blades:
These DIMM's rock my pants!

I'm slightly bothered by the clock, though. It's set to 1200 in BIOS, not 1188.

You set it to DDR2-1200 in unlinked mode with your FSB at 475MHz, didn't you?
If we calculate this we get a DRAM to FSB ratio of 600MHz/475MHz =~ 1,263, but such a divider does not exist, and since the closest to your setting is 1,250 a.k.a. 5:4 divider the board boots with this divider.

[Rayce185]

Haha, yeah. I guess 19/12 wouldn't have worked
I got a 11.591 on a 1m SuperPi run, but it fails miserably in LinX, so I'm back down to 1800 FSB, the RAm is still at 1200 though. Real 1200

[zsamz_]

Haha, yeah. I guess 19/12 wouldn't have worked
I got a 11.591 on a 1m SuperPi run, but it fails miserably in LinX, so I'm back down to 1800 FSB, the RAm is still at 1200 though. Real 1200

buyin pc2-9600 and cant do 1250+ suks imho
with that kind of binnin ocz should be ashamed of themselves
if i had them sticks i'd rma them soooo fast
you should try doin cas4 1000+ with that board

[Rayce185]

buyin pc2-9600 and cant do 1250+ suks imho
with that kind of binnin ocz should be ashamed of themselves
if i had them sticks i'd rma them soooo fast
you should try doin cas4 1000+ with that board

I ran 4-4-3-10 1T on 1000mhz and didn't make the 10gb/s write speed, but I managed a latency around 43ns or something.

SuperPi preferred the higher speed though: 1M in 11.591s on this setup

[18 is # 1]

buyin pc2-9600 and cant do 1250+ suks imho
with that kind of binnin ocz should be ashamed of themselves
if i had them sticks i'd rma them soooo fast
you should try doin cas4 1000+ with that board

I'm impressed that nVidia board will do 1200.

[zsamz_]

I'm impressed that nVidia board will do 1200.

i'm not

[RyderOCZ]

buyin pc2-9600 and cant do 1250+ suks imho
with that kind of binnin ocz should be ashamed of themselves
if i had them sticks i'd rma them soooo fast
you should try doin cas4 1000+ with that board

What exactly do you expect? How do you think binning works?

[deadman'sclick]

What exactly do you expect? How do you think binning works?

nice to see sum ocz staff in this thread.

so if i bought sum of the 1150mhz kits they will hit 1200mhz but not above Ryder?

im only asking because i only wanna run at 1200 & prefure ocz over other brands.

my current reaper hav been running at 1200mhz for ages ,but i wanted to go 2x 2gb & dont wanna loose bandwidth. im happy with my current clocks & just wanted the extra amount of memory.

thanks

deadman's