Particle, when you ran WCG, any indications on how many points per day (or hour) you were averaging?
Perkam
Particle, when you ran WCG, any indications on how many points per day (or hour) you were averaging?
Perkam
If there was a Phenom II x4 2.2GHz at market, Particels Istanbuls would be 50% more efficient at folding than thoseOriginally Posted by perkam
Folding doesn't require a bunch of cache so the fact that they are sharing L3 doesn't matter
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In that case I would guesstimate 15k ppd and 30 WUs average per CPU.If there was a Phenom II x4 2.2GHz at market, Particels Istanbuls would be 50% more efficient at folding than those
Opterons on average perform a lot better than Phenoms, so I'm not quite sure that's a fair assessment.If there was a Phenom II x4 2.2GHz at market, Particels Istanbuls would be 50% more efficient at folding than those
@ Poppa, 15k PPD per CPU seems low
Hopefully Particle can retest.
Perkam
No idea. I've never found PPD numbers that jive with anyone else's. At 3.5GHz on my PII X4 940 I showed like 5k/day when going 24/7.
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so if the l3 is 6mb and there's 6 cores.... u guys think l3 size will go up in these chips in the future? or is that backwards? they're making 1mb l2's again right?
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I need some help on raising vCore. Coincidentally, at the stock VID of 1.225V the maximum I can achieve is a little over 2.5GHz. That's actually pretty promising since the desktop chips default to like 1.300, 1.325, and 1.350. I'd like to try my luck at 1.3V and I'm guessing it would get me to 2.8-3.0 without too much trouble.
K10Stat does work, but its modifications are instantly overwritten if they exceed the maximum allowed VID of 1.225V. I can set it lower than that and it sticks/applies. There are no voltage options in the BIOS. nTune can't control it. I just need a way to force this thing to ignore the max VID or overwrite (increase) what that max VID is or something. (Side note: After installing nTune, I have to reinstall Windows if I want the ability to login as new user accounts that don't have profiles yet or it'll lock up at "Preparing Desktop".)
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you have the latest .net frame work? ( 3.5? )
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Yes, I do.
I took a look and it appears I have ISL 6323 voltage controllers. Haven't found much on them yet other than the spec sheet/pin diagram.
http://www.intersil.com/data/fn/FN9278.pdf
Any of you know how to make this thing do what I want (or know anyone who you can drag into this)?
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As far as Vcore goes the only thing I can think of is performing a pin mod/hard mod on the chips to raise the Vcore.....
However this is risky and also unknown waters to pin mod these chips.
Not sure if this will be of any use to you man, but in the early days of Phenoms some of the Gurus used "Crystal CPUID" to manually set registers on the K10 chips. I just thought I would mention it in case the registers also control the voltage chip.
Might be worh a read:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=crystal+cpuid
sam2008 and justapost both dug pretty deep into those settings.
You might want to shoot them a PM if you think they might be able to help and if they re still around.
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I find that hard to believe:
Although WCG and F@H are different, shouldn't you be doing at least 40k PPD at 2.5Ghz?
You can ask MM for WCG tweaks any time, you know that
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probably on 32nm but die size for istanbul is 346 mm^2. its smarter to pack on cores these days instead of oversized caches
Yeah--aren't cores like 35mm^2 or something tiny like that?
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Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
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Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
lol ur specific-ness makes me lol.
btw cable management much? :p i'm j/p. what thickness is that metal on ur case?
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1" 6061 T52 aluminum channel with 1/8" thick walls. All welded. It's pretty industrial. I think the frame ended up weighing like 12 pounds or something stupid light like that. With everything loaded the computer weighs like 60 I think. I was specific so as to answer the questions I figured people might wonder like "What is that?" A single viewer might only wonder about one item, but I figured it'd be kinda neat.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Don't say you're joking m8. You're right.
I have never seen worse cable managementGet some extenders and some sleeves.
Perkam
12lbs is light
I got thremaltake Xaser sitting here in my room with nothing it it weighs more then current case with stuff in it. the xaser is empty lol
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I mod my machines much more often than practicality allows for cable management. I know where all the cables go and I don't have airflow problems, so I just don't worry about it. I'm kind of an "industrial" art kind of guy, as you can probably tell from the case itself. I find an artsy value in a system like that.Well, mine anyway. If I didn't know what's in it I probably wouldn't find it interesting.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Cinebench R10
Some of you had requested I run Cinebench, so I thought I'd do a video run demonstrating the dual 2427s.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
And here I thaught it was cool when I started Cinebench with a Quadcore... Nice job man!
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This thread has had me thinking about the pro's/con's of server hardware now that I have started crunching for WCG more than just my laptop. I wonder if there will ever be desktop parts like that. And also, I know 790FX is capable of multi-socket, I am curious if that will happen as even dual quad Phenom II's would make for a nice cruncher.
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