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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Yeah I know direct import isn't an option because of customs, that's why I use.. other means.
    Ah, right. I've directly imported one or two items in the past and I haven't had a problem at all but its all down to the luck of the draw and I don't want to push my luck too much.

    I do have enough airmiles in order to get a free round trip to the US so I suppose I could pick some stuff up that way but that just seems like one hell of a trek. Still I have always wanted to go to vegas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mechromancer View Post
    I really think the current boards bottleneck these Istanbuls a lot.

    I'm confident we're only seeing a fraction of their performance right now.
    I really don't know that much about the Socket F boards at the moment, but do you know when we will be seeing newer models or chipsets that might improve performance. Are they just around the corner or are they still a way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post

    It can certainly be overclocked. I experimented with it briefly on my faulty motherboard and did some 2.5GHz action. I haven't yet figured out how to get vCore up on this board as K10Stat's VID settings don't seem to take effect as far as I can tell.

    There are quad boards that can support Istanbul processors, but you'll need 8000 series ones instead of 2000 series like mine. They have extra HT links allowing more CPUs to work together at once, and they're much more (prohibitively) expensive.
    What is the default Vcore?
    It's understandable if you cannot increase the Vcore on those boards...because well, they aren't really meant for that. However, Istanbuls and server chips are built on the best silicon. I believe you may be able to see some 2.6GHz+ action.
    But like said above, these are untested waters. 6 Cores on one chip could hinder the OC ability.


    Excellent. I want to see someone sporting a 24 core setup :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_redfield View Post
    Ah, right. I've directly imported one or two items in the past and I haven't had a problem at all but its all down to the luck of the draw and I don't want to push my luck too much.

    I do have enough airmiles in order to get a free round trip to the US so I suppose I could pick some stuff up that way but that just seems like one hell of a trek. Still I have always wanted to go to vegas.



    I really don't know that much about the Socket F boards at the moment, but do you know when we will be seeing newer models or chipsets that might improve performance. Are they just around the corner or are they still a way off.
    Word on the street (XS) is roughly 2 months from now. I don't know if that is when the chipsets start shipping, or when we'll have AMD based boards on store shelves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappa View Post
    What is the default Vcore?
    It's understandable if you cannot increase the Vcore on those boards...because well, they aren't really meant for that. However, Istanbuls and server chips are built on the best silicon. I believe you may be able to see some 2.6GHz+ action.
    But like said above, these are untested waters. 6 Cores on one chip could hinder the OC ability.


    Excellent. I want to see someone sporting a 24 core setup :P
    Default VID is 1.225V. The boards are technically capable since they're digital, programmable PWM voltage controllers. They have to be able since the VID can vary from CPU model to CPU model.
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    You go ahead and try OCing particle, so you can tell me how to do it when I get my quad socket mobo in
    I honestly have no clue about those tools you used, all us Intel guys have to play with is SetFSB when the Bios doesn't sport any settings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post

    The application I'm using to overclock with seems to stop at an HT base of 250 MHz, effectively limiting me to 2.75GHz.
    using ntune? just make a file 260.nsu and load it from the profile and bam!! lol

    i read it on here before, the guy said to go up in incriments of 1 i.e. 251.nsu 252.nsu

    edit - also, there's no limit if u use the " work around " on the htt freq
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    If you mean editing the SMBus directly, that isn't a promising approach. It didn't do anything. As for nTune, that won't work for me. nTune causes the computer to instantly lock up if I so much as click on the profiles tab. It's all pretty fragile, but it's better than nothing.
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    ahhhh! well idk maybe try other versions of ntune?
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    Worth a shot, but I was elated just to find one that worked at all. Most cause the computer to lock on launch.
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    yea that sux. but none the less 20+ ghz easy system. damn!
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    Reading this is mad fun- I did not catch it earlier but did you end up using those heat sinks from FrozenCPU the Noctua NH-U12P?

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    I haven't figured out a permanent cooling setup yet, actually. I'm just using generic AM2 box coolers during testing. I'll try and see if my Xigmatek HDT-1283 and Sunbeam Core Contact can fit on the board together when I finish building tonight. If so, I'll probably just use them.
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    Are you planning to buy a new board when the new chipsets arrive later this year?
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    I'm planning on getting some Instanbuls once they hit europe.

    But I might end up waiting for the new chipsets.

    Although I'm very interested in ALL the results you'll be getting. I'm looking forward to you OC'ing efforts.

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    Am I right in thinking though there is no SLI for dual socket chipsets with the 1336 Xeon's?
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    i got 20% higher scores in cinebench with a 64 bit OS. nice to see the hex get similar scores to a core i7

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    Now that CB10 score won't scale much higher than that, even with dual channel for each socket.
    That's the nature of this benchmark. The scene is too simple for more than 8 cores. Still I hope you can nudge 9x CPU scaling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Yes, but you'd need series 8000 Istanbuls, which are priced out of this world. Like 1600€ per CPU for the slowest 2,4Ghz model.
    Q1 2010 will be the time AMD customers will no longer be able to transition their existing systems to the newer processors due to a new platform. So we will see a Istanbul prices drop and a LOT of Shanghais and Barcelonas on Ebay

    The sheer jump from 4 cores to 6 though is very impressive. However, if this occurs for Intel's Gulftown as well, we will see Cinebench numbers for Intel's top models in the 40,000s at Stock. 0_0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
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    Now that CB10 score won't scale much higher than that, even with dual channel for each socket.
    That's the nature of this benchmark. The scene is too simple for more than 8 cores. Still I hope you can nudge 9x CPU scaling!

    Have fun clocking that baby!!
    really? i was thinking ATLEAST 10.xxx scaling. well, i learn new stuff everyday
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    SolidWorks's PhotoView 360 app really eats up this 12 core action though. Now there's a modern renderer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    SolidWorks's PhotoView 360 app really eats up this 12 core action though. Now there's a modern renderer.
    Send that to Bit-Tech so they atleast have one program that can use more than 4 threads

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    Quote Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3 View Post
    Send that to Bit-Tech so they atleast have one program that can use more than 4 threads
    QFT. That review was useless..

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    It's really cool. It's a render/finishing part of SolidWorks. It uses all threads extremely well since they each render staggered pixels when in preview mode. It uses all available CPU time while you're still in pre-render and gets it toward your current render settings until it's actually finished. Thus, you're rotating and angling, changing backgrounds and material types, and it's rendering at every step with all threads...just sharpening up as quickly as it can. With the dual 2427s, even complex parts very rapidly get to where they look like renders again. It's blocky during the rotate but instantly snaps back to quality when you let go.

    I'll post a video.
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    I can't wait for the video.

    Will be good to see how they perform with a real task like that.

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    lets see some benchies with that beast!! for games the inferno engine (ghostbusters) scales well with cores and so does lost planet and try y-cruncher by poke349

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