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    I would separate the loops into individual loops with a second pump and res personally. I can see where this res will help in some situations, but not a single loop with multiple GPU blocks and an I7. The heat from the GPU's will just bleed over to the CPU sub-loop and while the GPU's have a high tolerance for heat the I7 does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utnorris View Post
    I can see where this res will help in some situations, but not a single loop with multiple GPU blocks and an I7. The heat from the GPU's will just bleed over to the CPU sub-loop and while the GPU's have a high tolerance for heat the I7 does not.
    True, but I believe the heat from the i7's sub-loop would be hotter than from the GPUs sub-loop, so there should be no issues with the GPU's sub-loop increasing the CPU loop temps. And I think perhaps just the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rambler358 View Post
    True, but I believe the heat from the i7's sub-loop would be hotter than from the GPUs sub-loop, so there should be no issues with the GPU's sub-loop increasing the CPU loop temps. And I think perhaps just the opposite.
    Either way, you are going to be mixing the fluid, which means the temps from one will bleed to the other. If you have several hot components then the will just add to each other's heat output. I think this is a great for most loops with a single GPU, CPU and NB/Mosfet setup, but I don't see how it could lower the temps of a multi-GPU and CPU loop just by splitting them into two sub loops. Would it be better than a single loop, sure, but not better than two discreet loops. Would love to be proven wrong on this since I would rather have one pump and one res instead of two each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utnorris View Post
    Either way, you are going to be mixing the fluid, which means the temps from one will bleed to the other. If you have several hot components then the will just add to each other's heat output.
    As you stated, the GPUs have a higher tolerance for heat than the CPU. If the GPUs' cooler water can help cool the hotter CPU loop by mixing into the single res, then all the better I think.

    Also looking forward to seeing Skinnee's results!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utnorris View Post
    Hey Boxmods,
    Any chance of making a dual D5 or dual MCP355 res with separate chambers for two individual loops?
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    I do have a design for a dual D5 and a Dual DDC version. The issue for the dual D5, for me at least, is the loss of efficiency from an overall design approach. The dual D5 design is aimed more at redundancy for mission critical implementations and still uses the dual loop design with PEC.

    The DDC version is similar in layout to the other DDC dual pump with a few important tweaks. Vapor is mostly right when he mentioned that the DDC does not scale to the dual loop setup on the D5 exactly as it is, but I did find a way to get it VERY close. That design is a machined POM (delrin) part so it can enter production pretty fast once the design is sold and green lighted. I am not pushing it too much right now because I have a D5 pump top (single loop type) coming out shortly as well as a CPU block that is a totally new direction for blocks. Then there is Rain Maker, a complete line of radiators that I honestly believe will blow you guys away. If you think T3 is a different approach...Rain Maker is 10 times more innovative.

    The point is The dual pump versions are down on the list a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Altspacen View Post
    I am going to chime in here only because I'm curious and after pushing my 920 to 4.2GHz I couldn't keep it stable w/o temps over 90C in a room thats 76F.

    Here is a little rundown of my setup - Bay Res - 355 w/ xspc top - HK3.0 - MCR120 - 2 Alphacool GPU blocks for my 4850x2 - MCR320

    I believe that splitting up possibly enlarging my 120 to a 220 if room permits inside my case and increasing to a D5 pump would help me keep temps like this in check. I have since de-clocked to 3.8 (200x19) HT Off and hitting 64C max load. I would like to get this box up to 4.0 with HT on with reasonable temps, given the information provided does this seem to be a feasible possibility with running this new T3? I don't see how it would hinder my setup and increasing my flow would totally help, if I could fit more radiator in my box that would also help a good bit but one can only stuff so much in a box and still have it look pretty.
    I think it would yes. Vapor has access to better numbers on all your components then I do so he could probably suggest better loops out of the gate...my napkin math suggests the GPU's on one loop. I also agree with you about keeping it pretty. If you have a rad mounted externally...your just not trying hard enough

    Other posts are saying that the GPU's will dump heat into the CPU loop. Though that is not incorrect a more correct way to think about it is the loops reaching equilibrium. You can't just view it as the loops hitting their balance and stop there though as you have to factor in the much more efficient flow rate you also get. Of course more rad (up to a point) helps. Valor is a few orders of magnitude smarter then me so I would 100% wait for his take and for sure go with his loop recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxGods View Post
    Valor is a few orders of magnitude smarter then me so I would 100% wait for his take and for sure go with his loop recommendations.
    Nah that Valor guy is kind of a douche. Vapor on the other hand is a WC guru.

    It sounds great that there are so many new designs in the pipeline, I do hope most if not all of them go into full commercial production. Looking forward to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibbler View Post
    Nah that Valor guy is kind of a douche. Vapor on the other hand is a WC guru.

    It sounds great that there are so many new designs in the pipeline, I do hope most if not all of them go into full commercial production. Looking forward to it!
    Sigh. You wanna know the WORST part? Honest to God when I proofed that I saw I had put Valor (I watched 4 episodes of Angel back to back so Valor was on my mind I guess) and I went back and changed it...to Valor....again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambler358 View Post
    As you stated, the GPUs have a higher tolerance for heat than the CPU. If the GPUs' cooler water can help cool the hotter CPU loop by mixing into the single res, then all the better I think.

    Also looking forward to seeing Skinnee's results!
    I bet nobody is looking forward to them as much as me =)

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