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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehaze View Post
    I'm not missing the point LOL I'm the one that was making the point remember? The point was thermostats are used to regulate flow in the automotive industry and via regulating that flow are able to increase or decrease temperatures. Doesn't matter how or why the thermostat works...the point is altering the flow changes the temperatures as you yourself are admitting by trying to explain it to me

    Perhaps the same premise is not noticeable with watercooling a computer because the temps are miniscule by comparison but the point remains the same if regulating flow rate through a car radiator changes temps then same can be said for regulating flow through a computer radiator albeit evidently on a much more miniscule scale. <- And that was the answer to the question I was asking, it's not worth it because adjusting flow rates is not going to make much if any difference be it increasing or decreasing flow.

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    The whole problem is that it either allows flow or stops flow. The thermostat in the car is effectively an on/off switch. Engine gets to hot, switch turns on, water flows. Engine too cold, switches off water doesn't flow. You wiki post said everything that DP has been saying you just focused in on the those 5 words or so.

    It is worth a test, but I don't think you will see a difference. The water in our loops will be in the rad for the same total amount of time. It will just see the rad more often with a higher flow rate.

    I understand what you are wanting to do, but I don't think it will be possible without a pretty complex loop. I also think when it is all said and done, any benefits seen will not be worth the time put into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millertime359 View Post
    The whole problem is that it either allows flow or stops flow. The thermostat in the car is effectively an on/off switch. Engine gets to hot, switch turns on, water flows. Engine too cold, switches off water doesn't flow. You wiki post said everything that DP has been saying you just focused in on the those 5 words or so.

    It is worth a test, but I don't think you will see a difference. The water in our loops will be in the rad for the same total amount of time. It will just see the rad more often with a higher flow rate.

    I understand what you are wanting to do, but I don't think it will be possible without a pretty complex loop. I also think when it is all said and done, any benefits seen will not be worth the time put into it.
    Nah bro, some thermostats have holes in them to keep water circulating while they are closed, they also make these to replace the thermostat http://autoparts.thecarconnection.co...or/replacement , they also have 2 way thermostats: "All LT1 engines utilize a special 2-way acting full bypass thermostat. This means that the thermostat regulates coolant flow both in to as well as out of the engine, while the bypass portion of the thermostat circuit supplies the water pump with a full flow of liquid coolant at all times. This is unlike a conventional engine thermostat, which only regulates coolant flow at the engine outlet, and which does not allow full flow through the water pump when the engine is cold and the thermostat is in bypass mode."

    Anyways it's a whole different subject...and I still have a headache from talking about this all last night so taking a break

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehaze View Post
    Nah bro, some thermostats have holes in them to keep water circulating while they are closed, they also make these to replace the thermostat http://autoparts.thecarconnection.co...or/replacement , they also have 2 way thermostats: "All LT1 engines utilize a special 2-way acting full bypass thermostat. This means that the thermostat regulates coolant flow both in to as well as out of the engine, while the bypass portion of the thermostat circuit supplies the water pump with a full flow of liquid coolant at all times. This is unlike a conventional engine thermostat, which only regulates coolant flow at the engine outlet, and which does not allow full flow through the water pump when the engine is cold and the thermostat is in bypass mode."

    Anyways it's a whole different subject...and I still have a headache from talking about this all last night so taking a break
    Got ya, good call. I was more referring to the old school engines where it basically is a switch LOL. Well at least you got what you were trying to figure out figured out in other thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by millertime359 View Post
    Got ya, good call. I was more referring to the old school engines where it basically is a switch LOL. Well at least you got what you were trying to figure out figured out in other thread
    Took awhile but it all makes sense now Glad that is over

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    I've neglected to lookup how overvolting the D5 will effect the PQ curve, but if the D5 is receptive to being overdriven then we can eek out some more performance

    This is going to save some money over dual-loop designs. I'm liking it.

    Edit: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=170217 - Martin's D5 (stock) testing reveals that the D5 gains slight performance going from 12v to 13.1 - 24v (no difference after 13.1v), with about an extra 2-5w power consumption at above 3.0 GPM.
    Meh...it's at least some difference...nice power regulation circuitry though

    Max current draw and flow rate results:

    12v = 4.29 GPM, 33.0" Head, 1.99 amps (combined 2 results here, but close enough)
    13.1v = 4.58 GPM @ 37.0" Head, 2.16 amps
    24v = 4.58 GPM @ 36.9" Head, 1.20 amps

    Not sure if it's worth the extra few watts
    Last edited by Vampiyer; 07-08-2009 at 11:34 AM.

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