msi 790 fx-gd70 thread

[Panther57]

My Temps are topping around 46/48. The voltages were gotten from a sample online. Yes, I have had only the CPU-VDD, CPU NB VDD, Dram and NB Voltage as set with the remainder on "Auto" from another example I saw. I have them at current setting and they work, but if you can give me lowers numbers to use, that's why I worte. I would like not to use more than needed if I am too high.
I guess I need to play with less voltage and see results? Have not tried.... but your getting me in the directions I am looking for. Do you think SpredsSpectrum stopped my unlocking CPU's 4th core? I thought SpreadSprectrum was for RFI interfearance and leave on if stable? Or are you saying too get a higher "Stable" result? My goal is not how high, but where is best for overall, as in tuned.

Thanks.... throw chnages to try at me. I didn't mention that I have ACC off also. 29/32deg at Idle. If I take HT Voltage to 1.4 I get 35/38deg Idle- high 40's load. I have used the HT voltage adjustment to get a more stable NB increase to 2436. Have not found setting for 2600ish that OCCT likes. I am not totaly clear on NB and HT settings for best performance. Yet current works great....

Thanks

[shadow_419]

Spread spectrum is better left off unless you have emi coming from your computer affecting other electronics. It can cause instability when overclocking so I always leave it off. I couldn't unlock my 720 either so I don't think it has anything to do with that. I can't give you lower numbers each cpu is different, but don't be afraid to lower them and test. With my 720 I could hit 3.6ghz with 1.472v cpu vdd / 1.362v cpu-nb vdd / nb v 1.28 / ht v 1.22 / htt & nb at 2600 mhz.

[FlawleZ]

Spread spectrum is better left off unless you have emi coming from your computer affecting other electronics. It can cause instability when overclocking so I always leave it off. I couldn't unlock my 720 either so I don't think it has anything to do with that. I can't give you lower numbers each cpu is different, but don't be afraid to lower them and test. With my 720 I could hit 3.6ghz with 1.472v cpu vdd / 1.362v cpu-nb vdd / nb v 1.28 / ht v 1.22 / htt & nb at 2600 mhz.

I've been testing at 3.6Ghz on my 720 BE as well, trying to find exactly how much CPU VDD and NB VDD will be needed for stability. SuperPi is stable but 3DMark06 isn't just yet. I should have some time this evening to keep testing and I'll reference my voltages with yours.

[shadow_419]

I've been testing at 3.6Ghz on my 720 BE as well, trying to find exactly how much CPU VDD and NB VDD will be needed for stability. SuperPi is stable but 3DMark06 isn't just yet. I should have some time this evening to keep testing and I'll reference my voltages with yours.

It's definitely doable but too many variables to have a hard set of numbers you can just plug in for 3.6 stable.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=877

[Panther57]

Shadow 419, Thanks. I will try your numbers and let you know how I make out.
Here is my Futuremark06 score at current settings:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=11399854
Hopefully several GD70 owners will pick up on this and we can get all kind of Bios, success information.
Still a little.... about SpreadSpectrum because of my stability, and what abot 1T/2T anyone know which is better? I know 1T is told to be better, but 2T works great?

[shadow_419]

Shadow 419, Thanks. I will try your numbers and let you know how I make out.
Here is my Futuremark06 score at current settings:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=11399854
Hopefully several GD70 owners will pick up on this and we can get all kind of Bios, success information.
Still a little.... about SpreadSpectrum because of my stability, and what abot 1T/2T anyone know which is better? I know 1T is told to be better, but 2T works great?

You more than likely wouldn't notice any difference between 1T/2T. In benchmarks you will notice a little bit, but if you can't get a stable oc with 1T and can with 2T why bash your head about it. I've always disabled spread spectrum going back to my first skt 462 system for the same reason. Instability when overclocked if you have it enabled.

[MadDias]

O.k. tried those settings still no go. When i saw your acc was auto i was hoping that was it but that didn't help either. My nb still won't run stable with it set above 2200.
I guess i will have to give up on overclocking with cool n quite.
Thanks for your great help, Do you know if the german forum had any theory’s about the problem.

the only theory they came up with was, that it isn´t possible to run the nb higher than 2.6ghz when c´n´q is enabled. i had a hard time convincing them that it is in fact possible.
i really don´t know what´s holding u back when c´n´q is enabled. maybe it´s really that some cpus don´t like high nb when c´n´q is enabled.
is urs just not stable, or can´t u get into windows (get a bsod while loading windows) at all with a nb higher than 2.2ghz?
that´s a problem i had with my m3a79-t. it would always bsod during loading windows when the nb was higher than 2.6ghz. on the gd70 this problem is non existant for me.

[Panther57]

Shadow 419. I can't seem to run the 2600 NB&HT? If I set for 3600 with NB 2600 and HT 2400, I do better. I wonder why I can'trun at 2600? Or should I say, I can set and run 2600 on both if I don't run FurtureMark or OCCT. I can run programs but not benchmark. The 3.552 numbers still seem to be my best?
I would be cool to get setting from a lot of 720BE owners. Well, time to try again.

[shadow_419]

I wouldn't stress on the ht clocks as much, but you could try giving the ht a bigger bump and maybe a bump to the sb.

[errol8000]

the only theory they came up with was, that it isn´t possible to run the nb higher than 2.6ghz when c´n´q is enabled. i had a hard time convincing them that it is in fact possible.
i really don´t know what´s holding u back when c´n´q is enabled. maybe it´s really that some cpus don´t like high nb when c´n´q is enabled.
is urs just not stable, or can´t u get into windows (get a bsod while loading windows) at all with a nb higher than 2.2ghz?
that´s a problem i had with my m3a79-t. it would always bsod during loading windows when the nb was higher than 2.6ghz. on the gd70 this problem is non existant for me.

Above 2200 it would either bsod or just freeze while loading windows.

[Panther57]

Yea, I'll play with that. I run good at the setting I shared. No higher temps than you numbers, but fine tuning to the lowest needed is my goal. Your settings use less increase so I am playing with them. As for 2600's? It would e nice to know I can run the full 5200Mts in HyperTransport. 2400's is good. You can, so it makes me want mine to. Not because you can, because it's obtainable for the 5200Mts. I scratch my head and wonder why it's not like a preset because the CPU is rated 2600. Two systems can be identical and get different results. I don't want to get 2600 and sacrafice with higher temps. 2400 with FSB cranking is my current settings @3.552Mhz. In the 2600's with FSB I would be pushing that. So 2600's will offer only a little FSB, if much at all. I appreciate the interaction. AS I go along I think I will reduce some v settings until it stops working to find my real bottom voltage settings.

errol8000 You can't even boot at 2200? What are your Bios settings and the voltage changes you have done?

[errol8000]

errol8000 You can't even boot at 2200? What are your Bios settings and the voltage changes you have done?[/QUOTE]

cpu x17
cpu nb x11
ram 1.3.33=1333
ht link x10
cpu vdd 1.3625
cpu nb vdd 1.25
nb volt 1.20
ram 1.72
c1e disabled
cool n quite enabled

With these settings i can reach 2600 with cool n quite disabled,but with it enabled it won't even go too 2300 without a freeze on load or bsod.
Tried diffrent voltages on these settings but still no go.

[Panther57]

From what I have read it seems that Cool-n-Quiet is auto until 280FSB, then inactive. Your settings are even lower than mine on the X3 720BE. If you look back a few of my entries here I listed all my voltages. I found that with the additional adjustments I am more stable @3.552 and a 203FSB, 2436 NB&HT X17.5. You have the 955 so there will be a difference. Wierd how we get different results? I am stable with SpreadSpectrum enabled and Cool-n-Quiet on Auto. Others need SpreadSpectrum Off and Cool-n-Quiet Off? I read an article that thanked MSI for the Auto feature on CnQ so that the power savings of CnQ are still there for OC'd boards. But like my X3 wont unlock 4th core, your setup want's CnQ off. No harm off, just no reduction off load for power savings. I found that equal NB&HT works fine for some settings. (a lot of settings). Cranked way up HT seems to need to be lower than CPU-NB? 1.4... beta's have HT Auto equaling CPU NB settings unless manualy set lower.
Good luck on finding your power curve of good numbers.

[shadow_419]

Correct, you cant have your ht link faster than your cpu-nb speed. It's always equal to or less than cpu-nb speed.

[FlawleZ]

Does anyone have any numbers on the RAID performance with the built in controller on the GD70?

[Panther57]

There are two choices for Raid on the GD70. Benchmarks show Raid O as the quickest. SiSoftware Sandra offers some numbers for comparison. Some reviews make reference to Raid numbers.
There is Jmicron 7/8 and SB700 1-6 Sata's. I have read articles that lead me to believe that the JMicron is slower than SB700? JMicrron is limited to 2 HDD's and SB700 up to 4. Like me you have WD HDD and WD states that the "RE" edition drives carry a Raid warranty coverage. In case you didn't know. Yours is a 640 and I don't believe they make a 640RE? If they are not RE and fail, no warranty. The read/write difference between one HDD and Raid O (Striping) is big. Like close to double in some situations and with Rapters.... even better. That is why a lot of Gamers go Raid O. Bigger chance for needing a restore from time to time, but can be worth it, as compared to Raid 1 (Mirror) that is still good but speeds are closer to a single HDD. I personal am going to go Raid O soon and order 2 WD RE Drives. I wonder if one Rapter is as good as two 7200's in Raid O?

[zanzabar]

Does anyone have any numbers on the RAID performance with the built in controller on the GD70?

with raid0 (not raid capital o) my blackops i had 145MB/s with may 2 501j samsungs and with the gd70 and the sb750 i get about 130MB/s, its pretty good considering that the blackops had a 45mhz pci bus

and the jmicron is bad dont use it for raid

[Panther57]

I have read references to using 7/8 for "Optical Drives"? Installing the Jmicron and running two optical drives. Anybody know anything about this? I there any benefit to doing so?
Just curious because that is something I would never have considered had I not read two different articles discussing doing it.

145MB/s is real good.

[zanzabar]

the jmicron can be in IDE mode while the 750 is on raid or ahci so u can use the optical on the pata and or sata and u wont have problems with an OS install not detecting the opticals right. the opticals also run UDMA5 and not 6/7 so they can slow the whole thing down.

[Panther57]

That's neat that we can do that. So with JMicron set as IDE and opticals work fine. I guess you would have a lot of Sata's used to make 7/8 IDE Raid for Opticals, but it's an option. Obviusly no loss or gain in operation but an option none the less.

Thanks for the answer.

[Soulman84]

hi guys, i have a question...how this mainboard goes with 4 sticks of ram? i can buy for a good price 4x1 gb of ocz with micron gtr chips, but i don't know if the main have some problems with all 4 slots filled...thanks

[Sparky]

I'm back at stock speeds. Had BSODs constantly again, tinkered around with stuff and made it worse, couldn't figure out what I changed, hadn't saved my custom settings....

Time to try again I guess but man AMD's new stuff confuses me so much! I almost wish it were simple bus speed, multi, and CPU vcore like the "old days" as that I could understand. Why I'm having so much trouble wrapping my head around this I have no idea. Too many settings that I simply do not understand.

[FrOzE]

Anyone here successfully unlock all 4 cores of a X3 720BE or X2 550BE? Can u share ur settings of ur BIOS?

cpu:
cpu nb:
ht link:
cpu vdd:
cpu nb vdd:
nb volt:
ram:
c1e:
cool n quite:

[zanzabar]

hi guys, i have a question...how this mainboard goes with 4 sticks of ram? i can buy for a good price 4x1 gb of ocz with micron gtr chips, but i don't know if the main have some problems with all 4 slots filled...thanks

the MC typicaly dosnt like to oc and run 4 sticks. and the ocz amd edition ddr3 has KPT or what the low voltage micron is that clocks.

my gts isnt doing to well but i have a bad board its going back tomorrow for an exchange and im still debating on gd70 or m3h5

[FlawleZ]

So from what I'm gathering, I should use the SB750 RAID controller and NOT the JMicron, correct?