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  1. 06-28-2009, 06:02 PM #76
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    For the love of Bob, what have I done?

    Sidenote: This will be multi-stage. Once everything is here I'll be able to see the BIOS chip personally and can then order a new one from BIOSMAN--the newest version should let the Istanbul chips work. At that time I'll also get to see if the board comes with mounting brackets or not. If not, I'll have to order those at the same time. They will enable me to use AM2 heatsinks.

    I need some serious back pattage here to feel good about myself. I really hope the WCG team can appreciate this.

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    Looks like a ton of fun with some new toys. $1300 for dual hexies is pretty good too. Be sure to let us know how they do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bgriffs View Post
    Looks like a ton of fun with some new toys. $1300 for dual hexies is pretty good too. Be sure to let us know how they do
    I thought it was dual Shanghais before I read your post, went back to his post and my eyebrows hit the ceiling

    Should be AMAZING. You can multi-task faster than a monkey can taste-test Brazilian bananas.

    Good job not bloating the budget to $2,000. This way, even when the 2.2Ghz Hexies come down to $250 next January, you'll know you made an awesome investment either way

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    Awesome particle!

    And at that price.. quite a steal really.

    Let's see how it does against my new baby

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    At 3.0GHz versus my 2.2GHz, I really doubt it'll be much of a competition. heh Oh well, it'll be fun anyway. I'm also secretly hoping for 3GHz, but I'm also not holding my breath. Nobody knows how these 6-core chips clock yet. Server boards also have notoriously underengineered power supplies when it comes to overclocking. I guess they figure people will be using parts within spec. P-shah.
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    It'll be interesting to see how high you can OC... unfortunately I can't OC at all, due to board limitations. Known issue on ALL Dual LGA1366 mobos, they can't OC past 136-138Mhz BCLK
    Otherwise this thing could do 3,5Ghz easy and REALLY start to fly

    I even have a beefy enough Vitec 6 phase analogue VRM that would cope pretty well with OCing
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    Lets hope for 3.3ghz 12 core action!

    You did overnight shipping right? I dont think i can wait for the results any longer than 42 more mins
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    I should get my stuff Thursday. If the BIOS is new enough, I'll have enough gear to at least do a test fire, even if I don't have a permanent cooling setup.
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    If the bios isnt new enough, what would be the easiest way to get these new CPUs working? Buying a cheap older Shanghi and flash the bios, buy a new bios chip, etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
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    I should get my stuff Thursday. If the BIOS is new enough, I'll have enough gear to at least do a test fire, even if I don't have a permanent cooling setup.
    Permanent cooling solutions are overrated - I modded a pair of standard Core i7 boxed coolers ghetto-style to fit on my Gainstowns to get the rig up and running
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    Quote Originally Posted by EniGmA1987 View Post
    If the bios isnt new enough, what would be the easiest way to get these new CPUs working? Buying a cheap older Shanghi and flash the bios, buy a new bios chip, etc?
    If it isn't new enough, the cheapest and easiest way to get up to speed is to buy a new BIOS chip with the latest firmware already flashed to it. BIOSMAN will do it for $27. There are probably cheaper options out there, but it's still a lot cheaper than getting a CPU for a one-off event. I had to do this before with my dual Barcelona.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Permanent cooling solutions are overrated - I modded a pair of standard Core i7 boxed coolers ghetto-style to fit on my Gainstowns to get the rig up and running
    Oh, I hear ya. My tower is vertical, so while I can simply plop on some Phenom X4 retail box HSFs for test firing, things get trickier when I stand the case back up. I could probably rig up some kind of wire retention system, but I don't know if I'd want to risk $1000 worth of silicon on it.
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    Particle do you already have a list of benches to ran through?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
    Can't wait!

    Particle do you already have a list of benches to ran through?
    I do hope the OS of choice will be 64bit and Cinebench will be among the tests selected by you

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    Here is a run I did earlier today
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    I'll run anything you guys want on any OS you want, provided it's either mainstream or you can tell me how to do it.

    Chipset wise, there aren't any alternatives for the most part. It's just nVidia's "Pro" line and some Serverworks chipsets. They all suck. AMD's first multi-socket chipsets in ages will come out this fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
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    However, I at Newegg's choice of using a padded envelope to ship two $500 processors in plastic OEM trays.
    Wait, they SENT $1000 worth of cpus in padded envelope? Envelope wasn't even in a box? I ordered athlon x2 2300 from NE for like $40 back in September 08 and it was in a box.

    If that's true it comes close to neweggs, no bubble wrap half filled box of peanuts for hard drives.
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    That's exactly what I was thinking, McRuff. Yes, that's precisely what they did. Two OEM CPUs inside a padded envelope with a UPS sticker on it. What's next: Bare CPU with Newegg sticker on the IHS?
    Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
    As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.

    Rule 1A:
    Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.

    Rule 2:
    When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.

    Rule 2A:
    When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.

    Rule 3:
    When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.

    Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!

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