AMD Phenom II TWKR Black Edition spotted

[BeepBeep2]

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1009/1/
Legit Reviews dated today...
Some overclocking results..
When i've read the first lines and i saw the cpuz pictures i remained shocked This is more a bad joke in my opinion from Amd a 2ghz stock frecuency Deneb at 1.44v? I don't uderstand anything... What it's the point of this "Tweaker" It reach 100-200Mhz more on air than 955 and 5.9 ghz on LN2 may be with real overclockers 6.5-7ghz??? .. So why it's "exclusive" , "not for sale' it's just a "haf step forward than 955" and i even bet that there 955 as good at this tweaker.. I'm profundly deceptioned about this, this "Tweaker operation" it's more a market strategy to gain share in overclockers team but hey i prefer an E8600@6.5ghz with 3.33ghz stock low vid than this in my opinion patetic 2GHZ 1.44v which was presented like holly grall and induced the opinion of meny people that started to think that it can do 5ghz 24/7 on air and is highly binned and so on...
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/r...stock_cpuz.jpg
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/r...09/4000ghz.jpg

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/r...-CPUz-6583.jpg

*facepalm* You do have eyes, right? 4 Ghz stable @ 1.45v, 6.6 Ghz QUAD CORE not DUAL CORE. It is highly binned, it's high leakage, and meant for LN2 or Liquid Helium.

The above post is an epic fail.

I'm glad you like E8600's. They are great dual-core CPU's. Overclock well, and don't make too much heat. When you realize that 4 is greater than 2 I'd be glad to think you make sense.

[570091D]

tom's twkr give away: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...test,2352.html

[onethreehill]

next are at neoseeker, tomshw, overclocksclub, hothardware, techwarelabs etc

AMD Phenom II TWKR Black Edition Reviews
http://hothardware.com/Articles/AMD-...-Edition-TWKR/
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1009/1/
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha..._black_review/
http://www.tomshardware.com/pictures...enom-twkr.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...n_cpu_preview/

[Shintai]

Lots of reviews for something you can not get...

[leoy]

Just to make things a bit clearer....
From what i read, i found some really logical words...

If you look closely at the TWKR-edition's heatspreader, you'll see AMD Phenom II 42, TWKR Black Edition, Not for Sale. There is no serial number or any other identification marker. This is because the chip is offered “as-is,” and not covered by AMD's product warranty due to the increased heat and expected shorter life they're destined to live.

And

The fact that these chips are high leakage components actually makes them undesireable as retail processors. Whereas AMD's flagship Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition falls within AMD's specified thermal limits, these TWKR-edition CPUs do not. They draw more power, generate more heat, and run less efficiently than the chips that AMD sells. The hardcore overclocking community isn't really concerned about efficiency or heat, though. Rather, they're looking for sheer performance, which leads to record-setting benchmark results. This is why AMD's TWKR is so attractive for extreme overclockers and not average users, or even overclockers cooling with air.

So this would be a nice answer as to why these are not widely availabe. They are not for your everyday use! , and everyone that thinks why these chips are sent to "some" and not to you, then you should really reconsider the purpose of this special edition chip.

[tajoh111]

Oye, I am not sure if it was kingpins intentions, but that freeze frame courtesy of AMD is showing everyone what a kingpin pot looks like inside, something I remember kingpin not being too pleased about.

100 in quantity? They might as well given these diamond heatspreaders with gold pins.

[SmaKKed]

So anyone put one under xtreme cold yet Liquid Helium?

[cegras]

Seems like these chips are the ones that would have been RMA'd if someone actually got these.

[570091D]

Seems like these chips are the ones that would have been RMA'd if someone actually got these.

exactly, but in the hands of "Those Who Know..... R"

[Foamy]

Lots of reviews for something you can not get...

there are allot of things that i can't get...

[xdan]

*facepalm* You do have eyes, right? 4 Ghz stable @ 1.45v, 6.6 Ghz QUAD CORE not DUAL CORE. It is highly binned, it's high leakage, and meant for LN2 or Liquid Helium.
The above post is an epic fail.
I'm glad you like E8600's. They are great dual-core CPU's. Overclock well, and don't make too much heat. When you realize that 4 is greater than 2 I'd be glad to think you make sense.

You don't get it i sad that this 42tweaker is just a little bit better than some 955 that can do 4ghz 1.45v-1.50v and also 6.5-6.6ghz it's nothing new i mean 955 had reached that frecuency....
So this limited launch "not for sale" it's just marketing...

[informal]

"Regular" users will be able to get 125W 965BE while the LN2 OCers will try to get leaky 42twkr .This way AMD covered both sides.And who's to say 965BE won't clock close to twkr? Twkr owners just have a bit better chances to reach 7GHz on Ln2/Lhe than those with 955/965.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

for revealing the new kingpin pot internals... at least you cant see the bottom

[massman]

So anyone put one under xtreme cold yet Liquid Helium?

Soon

[ILikeCosmosS]

So the TWKR chips have better oc capability compared to the 965be?

[Hell Hound]

So I guess the Phenom FX will be @ 1.35-1.4v @ 4ghz.

[Chad Boga]

So I guess the Phenom FX will be @ 1.35-1.4v @ 4ghz.

There won't be a Phenom FX.

[FlanK3r]

The problem PII is warmth, PII like cold at AIR (and not only with AIR) ---> with this C2 revision is 4GHz topmodel unreal...I mean, max 3.6GHz clock model, not more.

[Hell Hound]

There won't be a Phenom FX.

Can you prove this.

[TheGreenFoX]

for revealing the new kingpin pot internals... at least you cant see the bottom

Its "just" a prototype...

[Luka_Aveiro]

Can you prove this.

Can you prove there will be one?

[G0ldBr1ck]

There won't be a Phenom FX.

......using the Deneb core. No way to know after that. Then Phenom name could live on many generations.

[BeepBeep2]

How good would AMD start selling if they made a Phenom FX? Thats pretty much what the Black Edition's are, the replacement for the FX moniker. At least, thats what I cam up with in my mind.

If AMD really wanted to I'm sure they could start mass producing 3.6-3.8 Ghz "FX" chips, I mean if you look at how much they pushed frequencies on the Athlon X2 's I don't know why not. All the 6400+'s were cherry picked, if they did the same here they could have a 3.6 Ghz part on the market.

[Bgriffs]

How good would AMD start selling if they made a Phenom FX? Thats pretty much what the Black Edition's are, the replacement for the FX moniker. At least, thats what I cam up with in my mind.

If AMD really wanted to I'm sure they could start mass producing 3.6-3.8 Ghz "FX" chips, I mean if you look at how much they pushed frequencies on the Athlon X2 's I don't know why not. All the 6400+'s were cherry picked, if they did the same here they could have a 3.6 Ghz part on the market.

There are a lot of current AMD chips out there now that can hit 3.6 on stock voltage, albeit with no OC room without more voltage from there. Give them some more time and a new revision C3 or Dx or whatever and I think we'll start seeing them on the market. The 945 got scrapped by the 955 at launch because they had the silicon to do it. For them to really start moving chips they need to get OEM's to start buying the Phenom II's instead of the older phenom I's and then things will get rolling again.

[onethreehill]

AMD TWKR BE: Phenom II 42 - 6GHz+
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=806

AMD Overclocking-Event: Phenom II - 7GHz+
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,68...king-CPU/News/