Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[AgentGOD]

Hi guys, just ordered a Q9650 myself...

Just wondering, how are the VIDs and steppings on the new chips right now? What are you guys getting? And do they have the same correlation to overclockability like Kentsfield?

[Leeghoofd]

Got my Q9650 two days ago, and the second it was out of the box, it got lapped

Nice and smooth, shiny surface to it, lapped my Tuniq Tower base as well.

P5Q Deluxe, 2005 BIOS
4 x 2GB Corsair TwinX PC8500 CAS 5's

FSB: 445
Mult: 9
vCore: 1.3000v in BIOS, 1.288v in CPU-Z
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2v
MCH Voltage: 1.2v
CPU GTL: 0.670x

Load line calibration ENABLED
Memory at 1:1 ratio, 5-5-5-15 timings

I would run ya ram at 1066mhz region Kai, this way you can drop a lower PL on the P5Q Dlx, thus increasing ram performance big time (might require some more Nb juice though).

Vcore wise your CPU seems very average. 4ghz at 1.288 is not bad, but not brilliant either. Anyway very nice power to mess with daily ( me sniffs with my E7400 :p )

[ElAguila]

I am running my Q9650 with 4x2GB of RAM so I guess I will keep with the 0803 bios for now. I lets me stay at 4GHz with my 1066 ram at 1112MHz.

[TooFastForYa]

Anyone have a good starting template for the UD3P motherboard clocked at 4050? That's all the overclock I'm going for since I just want something 24/7 stable on air. I just got this board today and don't know where to start. I upgraded from an Asus P5B-Deluxe so there are many new settings.
Thanks

[AgentGOD]

I wouldn't jump that far if I were you. At most, I'd try 9x400 first... it's easy, and usually doable on stock voltage.

[TooFastForYa]

I was running @ 4050 with my P5B for the last few months. Just took 1.4 vCore with that board.

[Hoss331]

What vid is your chip?

[TooFastForYa]

Vid 1.225

[TooFastForYa]

Q9650 Batch # L836B361 w/ VID of 1.2250
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
G.Skill 2x2GB Pi Black DDR2 800 F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B
Core-Contact Freezer
Antec P180
Corsair 520HX

[Nevin]

FINALLY I was able to do 9x490 with 1.4v , strap266 (stable). Sorry no screen shot only this:

[Hoss331]

Anyone have a good starting template for the UD3P motherboard clocked at 4050? That's all the overclock I'm going for since I just want something 24/7 stable on air. I just got this board today and don't know where to start. I upgraded from an Asus P5B-Deluxe so there are many new settings.
Thanks

Try this out,

******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
 
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto     ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9        ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0    ]
CPU Frequency 4.05GHz...........................[ 450 x 9.0]
 
******Clock Chip Control******
 
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled  ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 450      ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100      ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
 
******Advanced Clock Control******
 
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 800mv   ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv   ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ]
 
******DRAM Performance Control******
 
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 400      ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00D    ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 900      ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual   ]
 
CAS Latency Time................................[ 4       ]
tRCD............................................[ 4       ]
tRP.............................................[ 4       ]
tRAS............................................[ 12      ]
 
******Advanced Timing Control******
 
tRRD[3].........................................[ 3       ] use your old settings for these
tWTR[3].........................................[ 3       ]
tWR[6]..........................................[ 6       ]
tRFC[54]........................................[ 54      ]
tRTP[3].........................................[ 3       ]
Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ 2T      ]
 
******Channel A Timing Settings******     
 
Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 9       ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel A Driving Settings****** 
 
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1066    ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
 
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel B Timing Settings******     
 
Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 9       ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel B Driving Settings****** 
 
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1066    ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
 
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
 
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
 
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore         [ 1.15    ]...................[ 1.3375  ]
CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.260   ]
CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.500   ]
CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.822   ]
 
MCH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.280   ]
MCH Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.837   ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.950   ]
ICH I/O           [ 1.500   ]...................[ 1.500   ]
ICH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.100   ]
 
DRAM Voltage      [ 1.800   ]...................[ 1.900   ]
DRAM Termination  [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.950   ]
Channel A Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.950   ]
Channel B Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ 0.950   ]

******Advanced BIOS Features******
 
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

[TooFastForYa]

Thanks Hoss.
With those settings the system failed IBT. From the template you stated a DRAM Voltage of only 1.9 so I left the timings at 5-5-5-15. From this post http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=203292 for my exact memory they used 2.0 volts to run 4-4-4-12 timings but I don't know how to change the MCH/DRAM Ref accordingly. Just ran prime and core 3 filed after 1 minute.

[Hoss331]

Wasnt sure on your ram, so either use your old ram settings or auto for now. What prime test did you run, blend, failed on 1024k or 8k?

try this,

******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
 
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto     ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9        ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0    ]
CPU Frequency 4.0GHz............................[ 445 x 9.0]
 
******Clock Chip Control******
 
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled  ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 445      ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100      ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
 
******Advanced Clock Control******
 
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 800mv   ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv   ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ]
 
******DRAM Performance Control******
 
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 400      ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00D    ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 890      ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual   ]
 
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5       ]
tRCD............................................[ 5       ]
tRP.............................................[ 5       ]
tRAS............................................[ 15      ]
 
******Advanced Timing Control******
 
tRRD[3].........................................[ auto    ]
tWTR[3].........................................[ auto    ]
tWR[6]..........................................[ auto    ]
tRFC[54]........................................[ auto    ]
tRTP[3].........................................[ auto    ]
Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ auto    ]
 
******Channel A Timing Settings******     
 
Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 9       ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel A Driving Settings****** 
 
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1066    ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
 
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel B Timing Settings******     
 
Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 9       ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel B Driving Settings****** 
 
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1066    ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
 
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
 
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
 
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore         [ 1.15    ]...................[ 1.3500  ]
CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.260   ]
CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.500   ]
CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.823   ]
 
MCH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.280   ]
MCH Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.838   ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
ICH I/O           [ 1.500   ]...................[ 1.500   ]
ICH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.100   ]
 
DRAM Voltage      [ 1.800   ]...................[ 1.900   ] or whatever you used before
DRAM Termination  [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
Channel A Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
Channel B Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]

******Advanced BIOS Features******
 
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

[TooFastForYa]

I ran blend. Will try those settings and will report back in a little bit.
Thanks

[TooFastForYa]

Those settings seem much better. Still failing IBT but it's getting up around 90 C. Running Prime for around 30 min now without any errors.

[Jor3lBR]

Those settings seem much better. Still failing IBT but it's getting up around 90 C. Running Prime for around 30 min now without any errors.

Above 65oC the Q9650 will give Prime/IBT errors but it's not necessarily the settings are wrong but the temps are too high.

So if you wanna test stability keep the Q9650 under 70oC otherwise your results will be flawed...

[TooFastForYa]

So far running Prime my max temps are 73C.
What were your temps with the core-contact when you were at 4.4? I'm also using a core-contact and I'm at 73C at 4.05.

[Jor3lBR]

So far running Prime my max temps are 73C.
What were your temps with the core-contact when you were at 4.4? I'm also using a core-contact and I'm at 73C at 4.05.

Could only use CCF at those speeds and Priming when I used an A/C blowing on it. And also make sure your CCF is mounted the way is supposed too I think the fan should be pointing the back of the mobo not sideways (NB). If you search this thread on my Name and Core Contact Freezer you'll see my temps on winter with tit at 1.37vcore and 4400 where topping 73oC-75oC.

The way I mounted on that pic was wrong, I had best results with the CCF mounted with the fan facing the back of the case and not sideways.

[TooFastForYa]

Mine is mounted sideways also. It won't fit pointed towards the back. However my case has a exhaust fan out the top so I wouldn't think it would matter.
Here is a pic of my setup.

[Hoss331]

Yea your going to need to do something about those temps before youll get a good clock. Those temps are pretty toasty for that find of voltage. If your cooler wont fit front to back id atleast get a better fan setup or skip the BS and go water.

[TooFastForYa]

I also have a Zalman 9700, think there is any chance it would perform better. I'll have to look into a water setup, always been on air.

[TooFastForYa]

Just reached 6 hours prime stable. Will continue to let it run until tomorrow morning and see how it goes. However these are the same settings that failed IBT, but could be because of the added heat with IBT.

[Hoss331]

With your cooling the way it is now I wouldnt bother running IBT, its simply getting to hot to be stable with 90c temps. If it passes 8+ hours of prime blend id call it good and start fine tuning it to see what it really needs.

[LennyRhys]

I also have a Zalman 9700, think there is any chance it would perform better. I'll have to look into a water setup, always been on air.

Nothing wrong with air, you just gotta do it right - I don't understand why you're into the 70s with that vcore. The Zalman is at least worth a try... I have one and when I was priming my Q9550 with 1.38 vcore the load temps never reached 55C. Are you using the correct tjmax value?

[TooFastForYa]

Well here is almost 15 hours prime stable. Yes, I am using the correct tjmax of 100C.
Screenshot