Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye View Post
You know what, it's about time some said this. Those of us who have to pay out of our own pockets for every piece of hardware and try and compete in HWBOT and othor events are getting slammed big time.

It is next to impossible for us to even come close to many of these setups where people get chips/gpus/mbs from special sorces.

Good grief people many of you act like it's your right to get cherry hand picked umber super chips from Intel or AMD or what ever just becasue you "Think" you are good at OC, or you have a special friend some place.

Yet when we go out and purchase parts with out own cash its extremely hard to get even close to the scores many get that are on top. Compete with us on retail equiment and you will see just how good many are out there.

I think you might even drive people away that, after they build a system and go... what.. why can't I even get close to those high scores.

I spent a huge amount on cooling, like many of you have, to be able to over clock better. Purchased everything else, just like many of you, and do my best with what I have.

I am one of the "old" kids that are just trying to have fun, enjoy over clocking a great deal to my best ability. I also think I am one of many out here who feel the same.

Please for give me if I kind of went off there, but this thread thread is getting to be a bit much.

But you guys with a silver spoon for hardware get it now allready and are doing more harm then good for the rest of us in this thread.
I couldnt agree more, yet if you have a friend who wants to lend you hardware so you can prove how good of a clocker you are, they disqualify the score, saying you dont OWN the hardware... What about all the cherry ES chips taht some get given to them?

none of us regular guys stand a chance. If it werent for alot of my friends i wouldnt have half the stuff I have now or even had the chance to go subzero, but singling out and having a select few that get the best, means the rest of us buy the product knowing all too well that our product will probably never net us the scores like we see here.