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I thought I had but the only pics I can find are the the 'post cola' shots! lol
What makes you think it's swiftech prob? Mine was a gunked up D-tek
Another thing I noticed...The liquid from the loop was poured into a jug. Once it had settled, there was tiny 'blue' particles at the bottom.
I've never used dye in my loops if you were thinking of asking!
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It was my GFX2 that gunked up, my fuzion didn't look half as bad.
I thought it might have been an air lock in the GPU block, if you think about it, the block is installed upside down. Meaning if there was an air lock, the base plate would take the hit.
Having said that though, my GPU temps never seemed high...
I really dunnolol
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Man that is weird. I thought for sure we were onto something here. Did the black tarry stuff look like the stuff in Snipes photos?
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Dude guys...
we talked about this a long time ago.
The general conclusions we came up with is that if your using an injector class block, PERIOD! do not USE DYES OR AFTERMARKET COOLANT.
We recorded a lot of data which was involved with things that used injectors. It seems that the pressure, impact, and turbulance causes the dye to deposit faster on your copper block.
Snipe your fesser green gpu loop is fine because u have nothing squeezing the dye though a high pressure injector.
Other guys who dont have problems, its mostly because you havehead pressure, or your blocks arent causing enough injector and turbulance action.
But 99.999999999% of the time this happens, its on an injector class block.
This is why i ditched the colored coolant in favor of colored tubing and i run straight distilled with silver.
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That decides it for me. Thanks!....err...anyone want to buy two bottles of Feser acid green cheap?
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The funniest thing about you guys complaining is this.
Your using a DYE for color.
What is the definition of a dye?
And you guys are suprised it gets stuck on your copper? Relearn what the definition of DYE is.
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Who is/was complaining? All wew were doing was trying help Snipe find an answer to his Feser problem...no worriesThanks for the help Wez
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Well I am finishing up my loop next week which will have Primochill tubing with Feser UV Orange. We shall see how it turns out over time.
Then yours is left over flux or something that was deposited inside your radiator.
When a dye is mixed with water, the die can be separated again by filtering.
Usually when you chanel water in tight little holes.. thats called filtering.
So the result is kinda obvious.
In your case, left over flux from radiator, or something that was stuck in the radiator is probably the culpret. PHN = pH Neutral... that means the algaecide is pH Neutral... so i highly doubt the PHN had any role in your blocks blacking up.
We only use silver because its reusable.. thats the main point... and the backup is that the coolant gets stronger antimicrob wise over time.
Well the entire thread is basically a rant. But its an i told ya so rant. This problem isnt new and there is NO way to fix it. Im sorry, but you guys really need to learn what a dye is.
The fate of all dies, is simple... it will either bond to your tubing and stain the crap out of it, and then the dye will fade... or it will get sand blasted onto the copper like how a paint gun works when you have accelerators.
Asking fesser or any company to fix this would mean they would need to design an entirely new water soluable, non bonding, dye that wouldnt bond to metal or platics.
Then thats not a dye that is colidoal coolant. <--- did i butcher this word? i meant like nano fluid.
I dont care what the manufactor says be it Fesser, coolit, or even koolance. A DYE is a DYE PERIOD.
Its that simple.
They of course want you to buy there coolant why?
Because its only ethylene glycol which is dirt cheap + distilled again dirt cheap + DYE @ 300%+ markup.
They make a LOT more profit wise on the coolant then the blocks.
Guys my last serious note on this thread....
Alex, yes our favorate Petra, went on a dye searching craze for the perfect dye around 2007ish i think... This is Alex were talking about..
In short, i think he gave up. So If alex gave up... Im sorry Fesser... PETRA i know for a fact is a lot smarter then you guys.
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You're welcomeOriginally Posted by Tamu80
Tamu80. All we can do is share, and if it helps then thats all good!
I've used the rad in question on previous builds (without any issues) and I'm always very meticulous when cleaning out my loop. Rad always get flushed numerous times with boiling water and left overnight with cola.
It may be a rant, but it's a rant that obviously many users are interested in, surely that's the whole purpose of this forum, to communicate, share and help. All three of with you'll find in this thread.
I for one have found this topic interesting, but then I do love a good mystery!
If we find gunk in our loops should we just.....keep it to ourselves![]()
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No your right...
but a lot of you guys are crying for the moon. Or chasing rainbows, as they say.
Sometimes u can only see cake, and not touch it.
Im still guessing its left over solder flux (possibly the food coloring inside cola dyed something).
Next time try 7up. I would assume its better because it has lemon and lime, instead of caramel.
But on another note... why would u use soda? Corn Starch is not something u want to wash something with.
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Definately no cola residue left, boiling water flushes see to that (and residual flux). I always check the flush water too.
Cola has amazing cleaning properties when mixed with metals, I would imagine it's the acid. Remember the 'drop a penny in some coke and it comes out like new' old wives tale? Well it's true! lol
I take your point about the 7up though, I might have to try that, think they'll sponsore me?![]()
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club soda...
why use corn starch ???
that is what im wondering..
if by some chance the dyed corn starch got stuck on something, that could explain his dark colors.
Wes im not saying it can be your error, but i learned the hard way, never underestimate the human OOPS factor..
thank you.
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