Quote Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler View Post
You know how chips are binned/sorted in factories, right? AMD doesn't bake a batch of chips and just call them Phenom II X4 955s. These chips are plucked from the lines because they fit certain electrical characteristics that the engineers believe falls in line with high frequency. Oh, and the snipe about the Q9650 is wrong, I don't think I've seen a Q9650 run a benchmark past 5GHz.
Obviously you read my post wrong. However, a super-binning is just what it is; we're yet to see what kinda overhead these chips have under extreme cold, where we all know PH II shines; as in, will these finally break the 7Ghz barrier. If there were such chips, the Scandinavian guys, and even Kingpin would have ocs by now showing those numbers. The fact that they don't for me says a lot. I mean all these guys play with are ES chips - at least in most of their record breaking attempts.

On the Q9650 vs this chip, I'm talking from the perspective of a regular system with mainstream cooling (air, water) for 24/7 use. Isn't that what matters. I mean, I'm yet to see anyone who uses ln2/lhe for 24/7 use?