Fun with The Torture Rack

[Copenhagen69]

Looking amazing!!! This is giving me hope for my future sleaving endeavor I'm gonna get into on tuesday haha

[NaeKuh]

u normal people lost shazza..

she has joined the red side of the force... the dark side....

[markkleb]

Ok, I cleaned the thread.
How about a little respect for Shazza, one of the nicest people I've seen on XS.
Manners, tact and never a nasty word that I've seen.
I know none of the OT was meant to harm the thread but would have been better off carried out in PM's or in another thread.
Thanks.

Drama queen
There was not 1 single thing said that disrespected the OP and didnt contribute to the thread.

How are people supposed to progress without other examples to look at?

[Alphamale]

Shaz,

When you started this build I never questioned your modding and building skills, but did the color choice (intially the blue seemed to powdery). Now I am eating crow, looking at the pics of the rig all together all I can say is perfect color coordination. Excellent work as always.

[shazza]

Looking amazing!!! This is giving me hope for my future sleaving endeavor I'm gonna get into on tuesday haha

Good Luck and have fun ... and most of all, be patient.

u normal people lost shazza..

she has joined the red side of the force... the dark side....

I don't for the life of me see why you find this so funny - you know it is just part of my continuing quest to be just like you

Drama queen
There was not 1 single thing said that disrespected the OP and didnt contribute to the thread.

How are people supposed to progress without other examples to look at?

You callin' me a drama queen ??? (If so, that's the nicest thing anyone has said all day ) Just kidding. I actually think one of the participants asked that the thread be cleaned, as they were worried about taking my thread off track (as if I don't do enough of that all by myself ). Sorry I missed the info that was shared. It would be great if we could get a thread speaking specifically to motherboard connectors. I'd give my eye teeth (if I still had them ) to have a right angle ATX 24-pin connection.

More Pics coming soon ...

[xaxis]

Superlative work shazza! I've been overhauling two PSUs with sleeving and I continually come back to your thread for inspiration to continue on with the arduous and more often then not painful job of sleeving.

Yep ... it's just a nicer sleeving than I've found elsewhere - a tight weave, so nothing shows through. The kits come with matching heatshrink, and are setup with enough sleeving to do PSU cables, sata cables, fans, etc.

So far, black is the only color on the website, but Kirk (BlueAqua) had some blue and red, not sure if he still does). Hopefully they'll be getting more colors in soon.

They're at murderMod.com

I think if I understood nils correctly, white sleeving will be available in July, not sure if he meant at the US store or by special order though...

[markkleb]

You callin' me a drama queen ??? (If so, that's the nicest thing anyone has said all day ) Just kidding. I actually think one of the participants asked that the thread be cleaned, as they were worried about taking my thread off track (as if I don't do enough of that all by myself ). Sorry I missed the info that was shared. It would be great if we could get a thread speaking specifically to motherboard connectors. I'd give my eye teeth (if I still had them ) to have a right angle ATX 24-pin connection.

More Pics coming soon ...

absolutely not... Just the silly Mod that cleaned the thread...

Very nice work by the way, excellent detail work.

[DarthBeavis]

absolutely not... Just the silly Mod that cleaned the thread...

Very nice work by the way, excellent detail work.

I asked the mod to come in and clean the off topic direction I took the thread to. I think we should have a Mark mobo/PSU mod thread for sure I just do not want to take over someone else's worklog.

[shazza]

hehe ... had a picture taking session planned, but a few minor issues got in the way. Even I know smoke coming from a video card is not a good thing ... not sure what happened, as I hadn't messed with the PCI-E cables since last I had it hooked up.

Going to try another card and see if everything else is okay. I do have another 4870x2, but don't want to go to all the problem of fitting the water block if I've made a mess of the motherboard too. Pump, fans, etc work, so we will see. I really have had nothing but trouble with these 4870X2 cards. I thought the jinx was off, but who knows?

In an odd way, it was kind of cool - I'd never actually made smoke before, as much as I've messed around with stuff

[NaeKuh]

I don't for the life of me see why you find this so funny - you know it is just part of my continuing quest to be just like you

didnt you know we haze the newcomers... dont worry it only lasts a week at the most. :P

[millertime359]

hehe ... had a picture taking session planned, but a few minor issues got in the way. Even I know smoke coming from a video card is not a good thing ... not sure what happened, as I hadn't messed with the PCI-E cables since last I had it hooked up.


In an odd way, it was kind of cool - I'd never actually made smoke before, as much as I've messed around with stuff

Ouch ... that sucks ...... I hope it not too serious It just sucks when your credit card starts smoking too .....

I asked the mod to come in and clean the off topic direction I took the thread to. I think we should have a Mark mobo/PSU mod thread for sure I just do not want to take over someone else's worklog.

+1 that

[xaxis]

hehe ... had a picture taking session planned, but a few minor issues got in the way. Even I know smoke coming from a video card is not a good thing ... not sure what happened, as I hadn't messed with the PCI-E cables since last I had it hooked up.

Going to try another card and see if everything else is okay. I do have another 4870x2, but don't want to go to all the problem of fitting the water block if I've made a mess of the motherboard too. Pump, fans, etc work, so we will see. I really have had nothing but trouble with these 4870X2 cards. I thought the jinx was off, but who knows?

Assuming you had your pumps going and water was going through the 4870x2 blocks are you 100% on the wiring placement after you sleeved the pci-e cables? If I were to take a shot in the dark seems like a ya might have got some wires criss crossed from the PSU to GPU...

"In an odd way, it was kind of cool - I'd never actually made smoke before, as much as I've messed around with stuff "

Join the club.

[shazza]

Yep ... wiring was fine. I'd been running for over a day. Water going through the pump, etc. Can't get it to fire up with an 8800GTX on it, so going to try a different PSU tomorrow ... joys. Back to square one.

[NaeKuh]

OMG the psu wont work?

So you have to redue all that sleeving again?

Shazza maybe the psu died and needs an RMA?

You had it crunching for a while right? and the Load off a X2... btw i feel your pain in regards with the X2.

[Chicken Patty]

sorry to hear about the issues you are having Shazza. Hope you get them resolved soon. Hopefully it is not the PSU, that would just be horrible with all the sleeving you've done

[shazza]

Yep ... it had been crunching flawlessly. All I did was shutdown to add in the "sleeved" sata and molex cables. Didn't touch the PCI-Express stuff.

The PSU has been ok, but it is a royal PITA to work with. It's modular, but the damn connectors are so close together, you have to go through heck and back to disconnect anything. Not my favorite, that's for sure.

***sigh*** I think the 4870x2s just don't like me. I might give a 4890 a try, altho I'm so far much happier with nVidia.

About redoing the sleeving ... meh, I wasn't happy with some of it anyway. This was meant to be learning/practice anyway

[MomijiTMO]

As a neutral fanboi and have recently gone through your threads [I'm a stalker], you have had some rough times with the 4870x2. Who knows what happened but smoke generally means pwm area and anything going wrong there usually results in death. =[

[Chicken Patty]

TRUE. Shazza, if you have had luck with Nvidia, just go back to it. I am making the switch myself pretty soon. One of my 4870's died out of the blues on me. Other than that I've just never had an nvidia card, wanna see what its like

[DarthBeavis]

Shaz did you verify all your cables and PSU with a tester before connecting to hardware?

[shazza]

Shaz did you verify all your cables and PSU with a tester before connecting to hardware?

Yep ... I am extremely careful with 'lectricity Doesn't mean we can totally rule out user error.

Like I said before, everything was working fine. Only thing I changed was redoing the molex cable. The one thing I think could have caused a problem was the pump was working intermittently for a short period - it's possible the card could have heated up. That makes me a bit concerned about the CPU as well ... but we shall see.

I had the flashing red "thermal problem" LED on the 4870X2 before it smoked it.

Still trying to sort it out ... gonna try a few other things to see if the board and CPU are ok. DEFINITELY have written off the 4870x2

[millertime359]

Well that sucks that it took down the PSU too. Is that normally that an overheated card shorts out the PSU too?

[shazza]

I'm not sure the PSU is gone ... will need to test it on another setup. I'm just mad at it now

The mystery unravels ... I think I solved the problem of why the card may have smoked. As I am going through trying to recreate the steps, I had the red blinking LED indicating a thermal problem which may have been a result of my pump issue. I then swapped out the PCI-E cable to a non-sleeved version, thinking maybe one of the pins had come loose or something. When I checked now, the modular cable was not the one for my Silverstone ... but was from another PSU. I'll have to check the wiring to see if that was different. Although, when I did my first PCI-E cables earlier this year, I had the 12V and ground wires reversed on the connector and all it did was not start - didn't blow anything up.

Anyway, I'm now racking this experience up to User Error. Heading over to Fry's to pick up another Power Supply. Then we will see where we go from here. I won't give up, this build just might take a while

[millertime359]

I know on my thermaltake modular psu it just 4 yellow wires on one side and 4 black on the other. I would think if a pin was loose you would just get a low voltage warning or card would shut down. I know when I forgot to plug in my GTX 260 it just buzzed at me and no picture. I was pretty embarrassed that it took like 5 mins to figure it out too. That's what I get for not following the old KISS.

[NaeKuh]

EK Block. :X

This is why you should of stayed with DD. :X

[shazza]

Yep ... I've had that happen too, which is why I can't understand the smoke problem.

BUT ... excellent news. After changing out Power Supplies, putting in a different GPU, reseating CPU (checked to see if it was charred ), reseating memory ... I have Lift OFF. Now it's booting just fine. Whew.

Still off to get another power supply. NaeKuh told me that Silverstone DA750 was a dumb move. (Caveat ... still don't know that the PSU caused the problem, and it's not fair to say since I undressed it - but it is a MAJOR pain to work with. No since having a modular PSU if you can't get to the connectors to get them off and on!).

EDIT ... just saw NaeKuh's post. Yeah ... you might be right about the block. But, just to prove it, I'll probably put it on the other 4870x2 XXX000