Intel to discontinue Core i7 920 & 940 CPUs

[GAR]

i dont understand why intel is doing this

To introduce the i7 930 and 950.

[BababooeyHTJ]

To introduce the i7 930 and 950.

I think that it's more since that it cuts into their i5 or mainstream platform, but we can't prove either theory. I've heard roumors about the 950 for a while this is the first I've heard about a 930.

[GAR]

I think that it's more since that it cuts into their i5 or mainstream platform, but we can't prove either theory. I've heard roumors about the 950 for a while this is the first I've heard about a 930.

Well, i have been told intel has sent a letter to inform them of the 920/940 being discontinued, and it also mentioned it was being replaced by the 930/950. It wouldnt make sense for intel to cut these cpu's completely out, there are several motherboards at $179.99 msrp, i dont know it wouldnt make sense to me if this was actually true. Intel should have thought it out before introducing sucha powerful chip for so cheap.

[sholvaco]

OK so maybe it's not as bad as I had originally thought (the line about the 950 being EOL-ed caught me).

So basically they are matching clockspeed of the slowest i7 part with that of the midrange core i5, the non crippled one @ 2.8 Ghz that most people are going to buy anyway. The probable line of reasoning being that allthough they are both priced the same they simply can't have an "enthusiast" part trailing the mainstream one in any shape or form.

If prices remain they'd basically be doing us a favour (well not towards those that already bought a 920 D0 ) if they hike a little to reflect the "upgrade" no biggie on my part either.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Nice troll attempt. Move along. Slower but smoother when smothness is defined by speed. Priceless!

I'm guessing you're one who doesn't believe in micro-stutter in crossfire/sli?

EDIT:

Will i5 support ECC? That was the main reason I was interested in Nehalem Xeons.

[Macadamia]

You guys are just the worst, If this was an AMD thread and people posted something like this about Intel being better you would be making emo kids look happy, Sad guys, Sad. I am not angry that you have a point to make, It may well be a good one, But from now on how about being a bit easier on people in AMD threads that do not think the garden is all rosy? Dont be hypocrites.

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[perkam]

Thread Derailment Status: Nearly Complete

This is a mute discussion. They are being replaced mainly because the i7 950 line of processors are in a price range that allows the Lynnfield processors to take over where the lower priced Nehalem left off.

Difference to us? Minimal, we'll just buy LGA 1366 Xeons

Perkam

[BababooeyHTJ]

Go on, be like Chad Boga. Insult our moms.

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Thats priceless

[ILikeCosmosS]

Thread Derailment Status: Nearly Complete

This is a mute discussion. They are being replaced mainly because the i7 950 line of processors are in a price range that allows the Lynnfield processors to take over where the lower priced Nehalem left off.

Difference to us? Minimal, we'll just buy LGA 1366 Xeons

Perkam

i like that idea

but know i think the 300 dollar price for the i5 is not mainstream (in my perspective that is )
but i can see why they did that(if they priced to low then noone will buy the core 2 quads/duo?200-300 range)

[gallag]

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Yo mama so ugly she looks out the window and got arrested for mooning.

[generics_user]

Yo mama so ugly she looks out the window and got arrested for mooning.

wtf?

[Chad Boga]

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I'm sure your Moms are all MILFs.

[saaya]

intel launched 950 and 975 at the same price as 940 and 965 to make 1366 mopre attractive, and to make more people buy expensive i7 cpus... i guess as of right now 90% of 1366 desktop cpus are 920s, and intel wants to sell more expensive 1366 chips. so they kept 920 and made 940 and 965 faster basically... that made perfect sense...

replacing 920 with 930 at about the same price makes no sense... they are about to launch 1156, why would they make the entry level, the most sold 1366 cpu, more attractive and hence make 1366 more attractive?

its like launching a 3.4ghz qx9880 775 before they launch 1366... why would you do that? your only going to make the new platform less attractive... its weird, i dont get it...

maybe they are worried phenom2 is getting too close to i7 920 performance?

and geez, whats up with you guys flaming snipe dog?
i heard that stuff from a lot of people, and its possible that phenom2 has a better balanced system request queue that results in a more steady frames per second... ive never seen it myself but i dont think its made up... remember when ht was new and people got flamed on the forums claiming that they FEEL its faster even though in benchmarks it performed the same or even slightly slower? same thing...

and windows7 feels faster too even though its the same or slower in benchmarks compared to vista and windows xp...

anyways, like i said before, xeons clock way better and intel wont be able to eol those or change pricing a lot, so theres nothing to worry about... this is good news for 1366, not bad news. its bad news for 1156 which will have an even harder time competing with 1366 now... and its somehwat bad news for amd, cause they will have a harder time catching i7 if the lowest cpu is a 2.8ghz and not 1.66ghz chip...

[WaxCactus]

i expect everything in core i7 to dissapear except for 965 since its
Core i7 Extreme, 920/940 EOL is very possibal because its mainstream in its own product line [core i7] 965 being the high end
i expect them to use LGA1366 [i7] only for Extreme Edition Cpus hence is why the drop the weaker cpus and probably gonna add higher core i7 extreme edition [there are usually 2-3 of those in the entire market]
LGA1136 being a replacment for all cpus up to Q9650/E8600
and to the 920/940

eventually lynnfield will become mainstream-high end and i7 will be the extreme high end

but thats what i think, and im sure this is going to happen

[Shintai]

i expect everything in core i7 to dissapear except for 965 since its
Core i7 Extreme, 920/940 EOL is very possibal because its mainstream in its own product line [core i7] 965 being the high end
i expect them to use LGA1366 [i7] only for Extreme Edition Cpus hence is why the drop the weaker cpus and probably gonna add higher core i7 extreme edition [there are usually 2-3 of those in the entire market]
LGA1136 being a replacment for all cpus up to Q9650/E8600
and to the 920/940

eventually lynnfield will become mainstream-high end and i7 will be the extreme high end

but thats what i think, and im sure this is going to happen

You do know that 950 and 975 just(Or about to) launched and can be bought? And D0 stepping of 920 aswell?

[Blacky]

I don't understand why intel is chopping the 920 since is their best selling chip unless is going to be replaced by this "930". They giving a green light to amd to lolpwn intel market share if this is true...too bad amd doesn't have tri-channel & sli/cf platform yet, if not would have been a ideal platform on price/performance...tho they are some cheaps X58 around now.

[Shintai]

I don't understand why intel is chopping the 920 since is their best selling chip unless is going to be replaced by this "930". They giving a green light to amd to lolpwn intel market share if this is true...too bad amd doesn't have tri-channel & sli/cf platform yet, if not would have been a ideal platform on price/performance...tho they are some cheaps X58 around now.

Who says they are? Specially when they just released a D0 version of it.

[DdotRoq]

My sole thoughts:

Intel will seperate i5 from i7 drastically by making the i7 the "ideal extremist machine" while i5 will be the mass-produced gamers machine.

I like how they think, solely because they are seperating the market in a specific way.

If you are the average gamer and want something good enough to run your games, go i5, which will be similiar to the i7 920, except now they will prevent the conflict by discontinuing the 920.

The xtreme enthusiast, overclocking enthusiast, etc., will be able to go the i7 route and have the ultimate gaming machine, overclocking without limit.

I see it somewhat of like a BMW 335 and an M3. Both are excellent higher-end luxury cars, but the 335i has twin turbos and doesnt match up to the M3. Yes, you can mod the 335i (cheap - ~$300) to be near the power of the M3, but if you already have an M3 and spend more (alot more), you can make the M3 a raging almost-undefeatable beast.

Just small opinion. I never cared for the AMD / Intel argument, I've owned both, but the performance of the Intel processors on my Macbook Pro made me want to consider an Intel for my gaming machine back in December when I decided to build. That May be a stupid thing to go by but its what led me back to Intel. Doesn't mean I wouldnt consider an AMD for my next build.

[Particle]

I suppose this would make sense from a business angle, especially if i5s are somehow cheaper to produce. Anyone know if they're a new mask? Anyway, they've already started to establish the i7 brand among "power user" consumers. You know, the people who aren't exactly like us (enthusiasts) but aren't regular consumers, either (cheapskates). Maybe that's the plan. Turn i5 into the mass-market brand and try to milk those users who are going to end up paying more for their i7 systems since there's no more 920.

Of course, i5 is still going to be a nice chip so it's not all bad.

[Shintai]

I suppose this would make sense from a business angle, especially if i5s are somehow cheaper to produce. Anyone know if they're a new mask? Anyway, they've already started to establish the i7 brand among "power user" consumers. You know, the people who aren't exactly like us (enthusiasts) but aren't regular consumers, either (cheapskates). Maybe that's the plan. Turn i5 into the mass-market brand and try to milk those users who are going to end up paying more for their i7 systems since there's no more 920.

Of course, i5 is still going to be a nice chip so it's not all bad.

They are a new mask. Its impossible to make an i5 from the i7. (Its also impossible to make i3 from any of the others. Or the Nehalem-EX).

It will be little bit smaller but not much. 5% smaller maybe? QPI+1 memory channel removed and PCIe x16 +DMI(PCIe x4) added.

[Glow9]

Not surprised said it before you cant have that many processor lines going at once. 775 and i7 should stay. How is i5 and i7 performance the same? I'm guessing P55s wont have sli?

[Donnie27]

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Ma...ges=PD&seq=212

Intel plans to launch three Core i5 CPUs with frequencies of 2.93GHz, 2.8GHz and 2.66GHz and priced at US$562, US$284 and US$196 in thousand-unit tray quantities. All of them will feature a TDP of 95W. The P55 chipset will be priced at US$40.

i7 920 and 940 aren't being replaced by 930 and 940, they're being moved out of the way for the i5. I agree with the other guy, this will improve things for AMD, not hurt them. 2.66GHz i5 Plus a motherboard that will cost from $159 to whatever, will make Phenom 2 and even better option. Because even the top $250 + $100 motherboard will make a it a better option IMHO! If the market goes the way it always has, this leaves room for AMD to raise prices on at least their top two models.

[Donnie27]

No but they can do 8x X 8x CrossFire.

[Vozer]

They are a new mask. Its impossible to make an i5 from the i7. (Its also impossible to make i3 from any of the others. Or the Nehalem-EX).

Yes, so it makes no sense to believe the rumour Intel will name Lynnfield "i7 800 series".

That name will be more suitable for a 3-core or, say, 4MB L3 cache harvested i7. But that didn't happen.

[hollo]

Will i5 support ECC? That was the main reason I was interested in Nehalem Xeons.

yes. asus i7 "WS" boards also support ECC if you put a xeon in them (as well as the supermicro/tyan etc single socket 1366 boards, not sure about other 'desktop' mobo manufacturers)