X58 board that suspends properly

[roller11]

Come on man, you're so sure of that?

ICS9LPRS18BKL with setfsb works perfectly.

Rev,
I don't see ICS9LPRS18BKL on the setfsb clock gen pulldown, I'm using setfsb_2_1_100_0. I see something close, ICS9LPRS918BKL, which semi works. That is, it finds current fsb correctly, but any adjustment up or down results immediately in bclk=210. From there, I can go down only to 209, or up as high as I want. So it does work, but you're limited to Bclk=209 or greater.

Is ICS9LPRS18BKL the correct part number? If so, how did you get it?

[Lsdmeasap]

K, Roller! I will go back to F7e, I do not mind at all, just always trying the latest and S3 worked in both. One thing I can say about F8a though for those interested the voltages seems to be alot better, meaning the Vcore is tighter to what you set and the dram is spot on what you set.

Back to F7e tonight it is then, if this F7e works correctly I will report to Gigabyte. Which only means prolonged S3 issues again for F8 beta's onward, but hey at least it is working now so they are getting close.

Roller, you still get double/triple boots at startup? I always have, and I can really tell bad due to my GFX Fans and Tracer ram

[roller11]

Yes, multiple boots on UD5 and UD4P. Depends on how close I am to a bad OC. Also, I find that I cannot boot into windows at the same OC that I can validate. That is, if the max
I can boot into windows is X Mhz Bclk, I can then use setfsb to get another 2-5 more Bclk once in Vista until I lock up. That means I cannot reach my actual max OC unless I do it on the fly in Vista.
Since ET6 is broken, I must use setfsb. Is this the case with you?
As to using F8a, do you find the tighter voltage helps OC, or is it merely a convenience because you don't have to compensate for the inaccuacy ?

[Lsdmeasap]

Ahh, glad to hear I am not alone. I get them stable or unstable, anything over 190 Blck (Haven't used less much so not sure where it starts).

I can boot in at 220, but not 222. I do know what you mean though, there for a while I had to boot at 215-217 until I found the culprit, which ended up being IOH on my board, needed 1.36+ for 220 Blck boot.

I have not done any max clock tests or validations as I have been very busy lately. I have done some Max Blck Validations and testing and use ET without issue, but I was only using the 19 multi so the multi drop would not have been an issue and I may have been using a older ET anyway. Which reminds me I need to reinstall a few older versions of ET and see if the 20 Multi issue is the caused by the new ET or if it is the F8a BIOS.

I think the voltage tightness with F8a helps with a little of both things you asked, it just feels better to see it closer ya know.

I will try to get some tests done tomorrow with older ET's and see if the multi drop happens, and then move to F7e again to test the S3 multi issue

[Lsdmeasap]

Roller, I'd like to see some of your test images on the UD4P with F7e. I just did some testing and have the same results as F8a >>>

F7e

Before S3 (21 Multi BIOS F7e)




After S3 (20 Multi BIOS F7e)




You can see my full report here, including thoughts about this and Easytune dropping the multi as I done some testing on that as well >>
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...tml#post296954

[DdotRoq]

Asus realized the issue with reboot. I am able to suspend at a 211 Bclk.

*Needs new bios update.*

[roller11]

Lsdmeasap,

I'd like to post some screens, but I cannot. When I click "go advanced" then the "attachments" pull down, I get the 'manage attachments' box, but it only has a space for typing in a URL, not a 'browes' option so I can navigate to a file on my computer. I've posted many attachments in the past and always gotten the space where I can navagate, but not now. Others are able to, so I'll work on this problem. Meanwhile, is anyone else having the problem of decreased multi after S3 resume?

[Trigger5521]

Lsdmeasap,

I'd like to post some screens, but I cannot. When I click "go advanced" then the "attachments" pull down, I get the 'manage attachments' box, but it only has a space for typing in a URL, not a 'browes' option so I can navigate to a file on my computer. I've posted many attachments in the past and always gotten the space where I can navagate, but not now. Others are able to, so I'll work on this problem. Meanwhile, is anyone else having the problem of decreased multi after S3 resume?

Yeah this has been broken since the last crash as far as I know. Hope XS fixes it.

[Sparda]

Others are able to, so I'll work on this problem. Meanwhile, is anyone else having the problem of decreased multi after S3 resume?

Me obviously But not UD4P but UD5.

@Lsdmeasap
Whatever that is I hope it get fixed since the D0 can clock better. Need the extra multi without scratching my head on bclk. Thanks.

[dejanh]

I can vouch that the Classified resumes properly from S3. I have been involved in fixing some S3 related issues on that board but they were relatively small such as fan headers not restoring properly if manual fan settings are used. Otherwise, S3 works great on the Classified board.

[theonlybabyface]

Also works perfectly on the Asus Rampage II Extreme with latest Bios (1306).

[roller11]

Me obviously But not UD4P but UD5.

@Lsdmeasap
Whatever that is I hope it get fixed since the D0 can clock better. Need the extra multi without scratching my head on bclk. Thanks.

Man, I just don't get it. I've had 3 UD5s and a UD4P...all resumed properly after SM. Only SM prob I've had, I've had with every x58 mobo...about 1 time in 15 on average, it hangs when going into SM. I've gone 72 straight SM cycles with no hangs, and then I'll get 2 hangs in 10 attempts. it is totally random and unpredictable when this happens, and has happened on Biostar, ASUS, giga boards. But I've never had it disable the 21x multi. If I could post attachments, I'd show my before and after screens.

[roller11]

I can vouch that the Classified resumes properly from S3. I have been involved in fixing some S3 related issues on that board but they were relatively small such as fan headers not restoring properly if manual fan settings are used. Otherwise, S3 works great on the Classified board.

Broken fan headers is a HUGE issue, means everytime you resume you have to go back and redo your smart fan settings, totally unacceptable. But it's fixed now, right?

[Sparda]

Man, I just don't get it. I've had 3 UD5s and a UD4P...all resumed properly after SM. Only SM prob I've had, I've had with every x58 mobo...about 1 time in 15 on average, it hangs when going into SM. I've gone 72 straight SM cycles with no hangs, and then I'll get 2 hangs in 10 attempts. it is totally random and unpredictable when this happens, and has happened on Biostar, ASUS, giga boards. But I've never had it disable the 21x multi. If I could post attachments, I'd show my before and after screens.

Care to share your bios settings. Probably we might missed something though I never had the S3 hang ; only the multi drop.

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [All]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [DISABLED]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [DISABLED]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [DISABLED]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [DISABLED]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. X36
Uncore Frequency ............................(16x)
Isonchronous Frequency ......................[Enabled]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ................................[218]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........................ [100]
C.I.A.2........................................... .. [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [TURBO]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8x]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [QUICK]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................8
tRCD ..................................8
tRP ...................................8
tRAS ..................................24
CR.....................................1

Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [ENABLED]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.3312]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[1.300]
CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[1.800]

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................AUTO
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................AUTO
IOH Core 1.100v .......................AUTO
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................AUTO
ICH Core 1.1v .........................AUTO

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............[1.660V]
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[AUTO] 

[anzial]

EVGA X58 SLI works too, but only rev. 1.1

[Sparda]

Nevermind. I already found the culprit for the multi drop after S3 resume when using turbo. It the CPU EIST Function. It should be enable.
Other power saving function doesnt matter much since it only save about 5 - 8 Watt.

Advanced CPU Features:

CPU EIST Function .............................. [Enabled] 

Dont mind the big bios template in previous post. It wasnt mine. I got it somewhere in tweaktown.

[Lsdmeasap]

Lsdmeasap,

I'd like to post some screens, but I cannot. When I click "go advanced" then the "attachments" pull down, I get the 'manage attachments' box, but it only has a space for typing in a URL, not a 'browes' option so I can navigate to a file on my computer. I've posted many attachments in the past and always gotten the space where I can navagate, but not now. Others are able to, so I'll work on this problem. Meanwhile, is anyone else having the problem of decreased multi after S3 resume?

Use an Image host, I use this one often >>
http://tinypic.com/

Then just put the direct image URL into image tags >>
[img]Direct URL Here[/img]

Man, I just don't get it. I've had 3 UD5s and a UD4P...all resumed properly after SM. Only SM prob I've had, I've had with every x58 mobo...about 1 time in 15 on average, it hangs when going into SM. I've gone 72 straight SM cycles with no hangs, and then I'll get 2 hangs in 10 attempts. it is totally random and unpredictable when this happens, and has happened on Biostar, ASUS, giga boards. But I've never had it disable the 21x multi. If I could post attachments, I'd show my before and after screens.

I do hope you mean S3 sleep and not Standby mode (SM)? I am testing S3 issues, not S1, so just wanted to check that we are discussing the same mode. Your "SM" Comment just threw me off so I thought I had better ask

[Lsdmeasap]

Nevermind. I already found the culprit for the multi drop after S3 resume when using turbo. It the CPU EIST Function. It should be enable.
Other power saving function doesnt matter much since it only save about 5 - 8 Watt.

Advanced CPU Features:

CPU EIST Function .............................. [Enabled] 

Dont mind the big bios template in previous post. It wasnt mine. I got it somewhere in tweaktown.

It should be endabled? What do you mean by "SHOULD"? You mean for the multi to not drop? If so, thanks for your testing and letting us know this, I will pass it along

In reality, it should not matter as the setting disabled should be always make the multi drop disabled (Full Multi always). So if this is the issue causing it, then there is a bug in this setting

[Sparda]

Yes it "must" be enable for the multi not to drop back to x20 after S3. Just realize it after update to f7d and load default settings which enable the eist by default.
It kind of habit to turn power saving off when oc. I think you can try it on ud4p since it the same issue.

I dont know ; it probably bug since the eist broken after after certain bclk. If I am not mistaken dfi ut board also must enable the eist in order to use the turbo but it already known long ago.

[Lsdmeasap]

Yes it "must" be enable for the multi not to drop back to x20 after S3. Just realize it after update to f7d and load default settings which enable the eist by default.
It kind of habit to turn power saving off when oc. I think you can try it on ud4p since it the same issue.

I dont know ; it probably bug since the eist broken after after certain bclk. If I am not mistaken dfi ut board also must enable the eist in order to use the turbo but it already known long ago.

Thanks for the clarification! If this is the case/cause of the issue then this info may help the BIOS engineers fix the problem. So I will test if that is the case on my end as well, then pass along this info the the engineers

Hey, at least for the masses S3 is working now. That is a step in the right direction that should make plenty of users happy. I do not use S3, but test everything in New BIOS's as I support MANY Gigabyte users so I am always having to test this or that.

Thanks for the info, I will let you know my findings on this as well. Maybe they can correct this, add in the New AHCI ROM and have a perfect BIOS for the UD5 and UD4P soon!

[roller11]

Use an Image host, I use this one often >>
http://tinypic.com/

Then just put the direct image URL into image tags >>
[img]Direct URL Here[/img]



I do hope you mean S3 sleep and not Standby mode (SM)? I am testing S3 issues, not S1, so just wanted to check that we are discussing the same mode. Your "SM" Comment just threw me off so I thought I had better ask

Thanks for the image host, I'll try it. And yes, SM to me means sleep mode.

[Schlotkins]

Whelp, even with the latest BIOS, I can not get my Asus P6T deluxe to wake properly all the time so I'm going to move on shortly. Any updates/comments on the Gigabyte ex58 ?

Thanks,
Chris

[roller11]

I've tested 9 different x58 mobos and so far, none resume from SM 100% of the time, the UD5 is as good as any.

[BenchZowner]

I've tested 9 different x58 mobos and so far, none resume from SM 100% of the time, the UD5 is as good as any.

I had no failed resumes at all with the BloodRage.
Did you try one ?

[roller11]

No, I haven't tried the BR, but I've tried various boards from giga, MSI, DFI, ASUS. Since I updated my BIOS on the Classified 760, I haven't gotten a failed resume, but the performance is very poor. Power button to full resume is 5-9 seconds on every board except the 760, the 760 is twice that, 13-18 seconds. So depending on your definition of "working" the classified either works 0% of the time, or 100%.
How many seconds from power button to full resume on BR? Full resime= desktop reappears, cursor moves and double clicking on an icon creates an action.